New Posts For Thread: Olivia and state based action lethal checkhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_checkI just read a judge’s write up that said State-based actions, like the one that destroys creatures with lethal damage marked on them, are never performed while a spell or ability is resolving. Here is where I need some clarifications. Let me gTarmagoyf with 2 card types in graveyards, a Lightning Bolt targeted at it and neither is an instant is the typical example.Bolt is resolving and marks 3 damage on the 2/3 goyf, thenhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_check?post_id=528685839#528685839Tarmagoyf with 2 card types in graveyards, a Lightning Bolt targeted at it and neither is an instant is the typical example.Bolt is resolving and marks 3 damage on the 2/3 goyf, thenFri, 01 Feb 2013 23:24:10 -0600Divine Deflection on its own only sets up the replacement effect, the damage is dealt later when Olivia's ability resolvesat that time she will also get the +1/+1 counter and survivehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_check?post_id=528680267#528680267Divine Deflection on its own only sets up the replacement effect, the damage is dealt later when Olivia's ability resolvesat that time she will also get the +1/+1 counter and surviveFri, 01 Feb 2013 16:49:22 -0600? In Pokerman's example of Olivia Voldaren haveing 2 damage then taking damage from divine deflection wouldn't Olivia still die. Because SBA is checked after divine deflection rhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_check?post_id=528680083#528680083? In Pokerman's example of Olivia Voldaren haveing 2 damage then taking damage from divine deflection wouldn't Olivia still die. Because SBA is checked after divine deflection rFri, 01 Feb 2013 16:40:41 -0600Another vampirific example would be this:Let's say you control Olivia , Captivating Vampire , and Tormented Soul .You activate Olivia'shttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_check?post_id=528675137#528675137Another vampirific example would be this:Let's say you control Olivia , Captivating Vampire , and Tormented Soul .You activate Olivia'sFri, 01 Feb 2013 13:39:48 -0600The most recent example I can think of where it was relevant was a Searing Spear on Jace's Phantasm with nine other cards already in your graveyard.Cheershttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29753975/Olivia_and_state_based_action_lethal_check?post_id=528674811#528674811The most recent example I can think of where it was relevant was a Searing Spear on Jace's Phantasm with nine other cards already in your graveyard.CheersFri, 01 Feb 2013 13:29:55 -0600