New Posts For Thread: Something needs to be said but Everything here has likely been said before.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.Everything here has likely been said before.As I have been Stalking the forms this month I have notesd something, Every form has a complant about the power and speed of standerd and its current card pool, I belive that Even with the way we have beenSkullclamp was banned at the time, I think, but the ban on the artifact lands happened later, I thought.Oh, no: you're right, they were banned from Standard in June, 2004![/quote]Yeah, but how many non-degenerate thinghttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.?post_id=528753821#528753821Skullclamp was banned at the time, I think, but the ban on the artifact lands happened later, I thought.Oh, no: you're right, they were banned from Standard in June, 2004![/quote]Yeah, but how many non-degenerate thingMon, 04 Feb 2013 09:18:59 -0600Skullclamp was banned at the time, I think, but the ban on the artifact lands happened later, I thought.Oh, no: you're right, they were banned from Standard in June, 2004!http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.?post_id=528739211#528739211Skullclamp was banned at the time, I think, but the ban on the artifact lands happened later, I thought.Oh, no: you're right, they were banned from Standard in June, 2004!Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:06:42 -0600What I am really trying to say about afinity is that it is not broken :p Both mox goblins and red/green pumper infect can goldfish on the second turn, neither is really broken (even though they just banned invigorate). So speed is not really the probhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.?post_id=528739025#528739025What I am really trying to say about afinity is that it is not broken :p Both mox goblins and red/green pumper infect can goldfish on the second turn, neither is really broken (even though they just banned invigorate). So speed is not really the probSun, 03 Feb 2013 17:59:58 -0600By pass the mana system and things can break.Also, weren't the artifact lands banned in block?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.?post_id=528731681#528731681By pass the mana system and things can break.Also, weren't the artifact lands banned in block?Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:36:25 -0600What[/quote]Yes, that is puzzling, since "the low cost artifacts available around it" were part of the same block.I'm thinking he meant that affinity wasn't inherently broken, in principle; maybe he was loan-translating and trying to say that affinithttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29752555/Something_needs_to_be_said_but_Everything_here_has_likely_been_said_before.?post_id=528730939#528730939What[/quote]Yes, that is puzzling, since "the low cost artifacts available around it" were part of the same block.I'm thinking he meant that affinity wasn't inherently broken, in principle; maybe he was loan-translating and trying to say that affinitSun, 03 Feb 2013 13:10:38 -0600