New Posts For Thread: Steel Hellkite/ Training Groundshttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_GroundsIf I deal combat damege with Steel Hellkite and I have a Training Grounds . If I activate the {x}, Is the activation cost 1 mana for casting costs of 1, 2 and 3 mana?oh, thought it said not less than zero! Sorry. I thought that was weird... Incorrect posts deleted.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_Grounds?post_id=528184953#528184953oh, thought it said not less than zero! Sorry. I thought that was weird... Incorrect posts deleted.Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:13:07 -0600It says "yada yada, activated abilities cost up to 2 less. This effect cannot reduce the amount of mana an ability costs to activate to less than one mana". That can't clause in there prevents you from getting a cost ability. I honestly don't see whhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_Grounds?post_id=528184921#528184921It says "yada yada, activated abilities cost up to 2 less. This effect cannot reduce the amount of mana an ability costs to activate to less than one mana". That can't clause in there prevents you from getting a cost ability. I honestly don't see whSat, 19 Jan 2013 01:10:27 -0600Oh, are we discussing semantics then? Your previous post made it seem like you were trying to say that Steel Hellkite's ability would cost for x=1 or 2 with a Grounds out.If it's semantics though, please feel free to continue. ^^http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_Grounds?post_id=528184617#528184617Oh, are we discussing semantics then? Your previous post made it seem like you were trying to say that Steel Hellkite's ability would cost for x=1 or 2 with a Grounds out.If it's semantics though, please feel free to continue. ^^Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:43:55 -0600"up to less to activate.", so - = .Even if it didn't say that, it would be - = . See the ruling for Arcane Melee .[/quote] Training Grounds specifically says that it can't reducehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_Grounds?post_id=528184547#528184547"up to less to activate.", so - = .Even if it didn't say that, it would be - = . See the ruling for Arcane Melee .[/quote] Training Grounds specifically says that it can't reduceSat, 19 Jan 2013 00:38:06 -0600No. The cost is reduced by (two colorless mana). Neither (blue mana) nor (black mana) are colorless mana.total cost= activation cost or alternative cost + additional cost and cost increases - cost reductions= - = [/quote]k thanks, just cheking.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29634423/Steel_Hellkite_Training_Grounds?post_id=528184419#528184419No. The cost is reduced by (two colorless mana). Neither (blue mana) nor (black mana) are colorless mana.total cost= activation cost or alternative cost + additional cost and cost increases - cost reductions= - = [/quote]k thanks, just cheking.Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:27:47 -0600