New Posts For Thread: Lich + Words of Worshiphttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_WorshipI control Lich and Words of Worship . During my upkeep I activate Words of Worship twice. How many cards will I draw during my draw step?My thought is this:1) As my draw step begiyeah, I came to the same conclusion as I pondered it some more.if Thought Reflection could apply to the second draw event that it created, it'd make an infinite loop.on the other hand, anything that applied to thehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_Worship?post_id=527702797#527702797yeah, I came to the same conclusion as I pondered it some more.if Thought Reflection could apply to the second draw event that it created, it'd make an infinite loop.on the other hand, anything that applied to theWed, 02 Jan 2013 23:57:06 -0600No.Imagine a card like Well of Lost Dreams but with a replacement effect. That card combined with Lich would cause the game to enter a neverending loop of replacing life gain with card draw and vice-versa, all stemhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_Worship?post_id=527698261#527698261No.Imagine a card like Well of Lost Dreams but with a replacement effect. That card combined with Lich would cause the game to enter a neverending loop of replacing life gain with card draw and vice-versa, all stemWed, 02 Jan 2013 19:14:24 -0600The first draw would still be the same event, however, the subsequent draws should be distinct from the initial event, shouldn't they?Initial Event: {Draw a card}Apply first Words: {Gain 5 life}Apply Lich: {Draw a card}{Draw a card}{Draw a card}{Drawhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_Worship?post_id=527695803#527695803The first draw would still be the same event, however, the subsequent draws should be distinct from the initial event, shouldn't they?Initial Event: {Draw a card}Apply first Words: {Gain 5 life}Apply Lich: {Draw a card}{Draw a card}{Draw a card}{DrawWed, 02 Jan 2013 17:17:28 -0600The concensus would be no, because it still stems from the initial card draw. That's why I was saying we need a better definition for "event" in the CR. "Anything that happens" is a very subjective phrase.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_Worship?post_id=527695513#527695513The concensus would be no, because it still stems from the initial card draw. That's why I was saying we need a better definition for "event" in the CR. "Anything that happens" is a very subjective phrase.Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:06:35 -0600Question: Can Lich apply to the subsequent draws as separate events? For example: If there was a third activation of Words, it would apply to the second draw which should be a separate event so Lich should be able to apply to it, right?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29610339/Lich__Words_of_Worship?post_id=527695289#527695289Question: Can Lich apply to the subsequent draws as separate events? For example: If there was a third activation of Words, it would apply to the second draw which should be a separate event so Lich should be able to apply to it, right?Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:58:45 -0600