New Posts For Thread: Clone and Infinite Reflectionshttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflectionsif you control Infinite Reflection on your Lord of Atlantis and a Clone enters the battlefieldcan it copy another creature or will InfinitGot it. I was thinking the Reflection and Clone wordings were based on ETB effects. But they really take effect before entering the battlefield.I was reading it "when a creature ETB, it then becomes...." as opposed to "It enters as a...."http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflections?post_id=526872235#526872235Got it. I was thinking the Reflection and Clone wordings were based on ETB effects. But they really take effect before entering the battlefield.I was reading it "when a creature ETB, it then becomes...." as opposed to "It enters as a...."Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:01:28 -0600LoA doesn't have anyno, it enters as an LoA, the trigger only happens when Reflections initially enters after that it changes new nontoken creatures with a replacement effectno, it won't have that ability after Reflections applies to it, there's a ruhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflections?post_id=526871257#526871257LoA doesn't have anyno, it enters as an LoA, the trigger only happens when Reflections initially enters after that it changes new nontoken creatures with a replacement effectno, it won't have that ability after Reflections applies to it, there's a ruFri, 14 Dec 2012 13:29:03 -0600What about other ETB effects.Reflection is on LoA, but then I cast an Archaeomancerhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflections?post_id=526870755#526870755What about other ETB effects.Reflection is on LoA, but then I cast an ArchaeomancerFri, 14 Dec 2012 13:13:06 -0600I wouldn't call it overthinking; this is a very complex interaction.Sure, today, most of us know the trick and Cyphern makes it nice & easy. But when it was brand new, the struggle around that idea was fierce.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflections?post_id=526857713#526857713I wouldn't call it overthinking; this is a very complex interaction.Sure, today, most of us know the trick and Cyphern makes it nice & easy. But when it was brand new, the struggle around that idea was fierce.Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:41:43 -0600Infinite reflection's effect will effectively override clone's effect.As the creature enters the battlefield, two effects (clone, and infinite reflection) are trying to alter what happens. The creature's controller picks one of the effects to apply ahttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29535135/Clone_and_Infinite_Reflections?post_id=526848191#526848191Infinite reflection's effect will effectively override clone's effect.As the creature enters the battlefield, two effects (clone, and infinite reflection) are trying to alter what happens. The creature's controller picks one of the effects to apply aThu, 13 Dec 2012 14:17:04 -0600