New Posts For Thread: Death by your own hand!http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!So here is another one of my casual Spike decks but I need help to optimise it. It started as a Black Vise bounce deck and I have been 'upgrading' it to make it more nasty. I was reading in a legacy forum a post frI have a similar deck. I employ the use of some artifacts to product mana and as Keino mentioned, Sunder, to put more cards in hand & cripple your opponent.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!?post_id=526608839#526608839I have a similar deck. I employ the use of some artifacts to product mana and as Keino mentioned, Sunder, to put more cards in hand & cripple your opponent.Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:18:01 -0600I never liked the idea of giving opponents cards. That being said, I do like the idea of upheaval and sunder type spells that force opponents to replay their cards. Words ofhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!?post_id=526604571#526604571I never liked the idea of giving opponents cards. That being said, I do like the idea of upheaval and sunder type spells that force opponents to replay their cards. Words ofTue, 04 Dec 2012 15:01:43 -0600id prefer prosperity to forced fruition. id be conflicted about fabricate....i just dont agree w tutors outside of combo, might go with minds aglow .http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!?post_id=526602789#526602789id prefer prosperity to forced fruition. id be conflicted about fabricate....i just dont agree w tutors outside of combo, might go with minds aglow .Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:06:34 -0600Mmm... and then I could add, Orim's Chant and Enlightened Tutor . Thanks for the suggestion.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!?post_id=526601275#526601275Mmm... and then I could add, Orim's Chant and Enlightened Tutor . Thanks for the suggestion.Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:21:01 -0600Actually, if you're willing to splash white and got the Scepter route, I just remembered that the Black Vise deck I played the other day (where he got me down to 5 life off the Vise alone, though we both had some unfortunate luck - the main reason hehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29521939/Death_by_your_own_hand!?post_id=526592303#526592303Actually, if you're willing to splash white and got the Scepter route, I just remembered that the Black Vise deck I played the other day (where he got me down to 5 life off the Vise alone, though we both had some unfortunate luck - the main reason heTue, 04 Dec 2012 07:53:00 -0600