New Posts For Thread: 9/17/2012 MM "Return on Investment, Part 3"http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.Whether or not the gate subtype pulls its weight is up for debate. What is not, is that "because they don't allow you to play a M13 dual untapped next turn." is sufficient reasoning.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3?post_id=524269577#524269577Whether or not the gate subtype pulls its weight is up for debate. What is not, is that "because they don't allow you to play a M13 dual untapped next turn." is sufficient reasoning.Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:28:05 -0500Assuming we're not talking about what "strictly worse" actually stands for.[/quote]Yes, they're not strictly worse by a technicality: giving them a unique subtype that a handful of cards care about.I propose a hypothetical: If I make a card:Giantizehttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3?post_id=524265365#524265365Assuming we're not talking about what "strictly worse" actually stands for.[/quote]Yes, they're not strictly worse by a technicality: giving them a unique subtype that a handful of cards care about.I propose a hypothetical: If I make a card:GiantizeTue, 18 Sep 2012 16:43:29 -0500Assuming we're not talking about what "strictly worse" actually stands for.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3?post_id=524262797#524262797Assuming we're not talking about what "strictly worse" actually stands for.Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:37:25 -0500They are strictly worse than the shock lands (assuming were talking about the shockduals here), because they don't allow you to play a M13 dual untapped next turn. Thats why I also consider evolving wilds better thttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3?post_id=524261071#524261071They are strictly worse than the shock lands (assuming were talking about the shockduals here), because they don't allow you to play a M13 dual untapped next turn. Thats why I also consider evolving wilds better tTue, 18 Sep 2012 14:55:40 -0500To me it's funny how there's so much going on with this set, everything is amazing and deserves attention, but the one thing I've truly fallen in love with is the gate mechanic. A mere subtype on a common cycle of lands, that doesn't look like it wilhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29380431/9172012_MM_Return_on_Investment,_Part_3?post_id=524242597#524242597To me it's funny how there's so much going on with this set, everything is amazing and deserves attention, but the one thing I've truly fallen in love with is the gate mechanic. A mere subtype on a common cycle of lands, that doesn't look like it wilTue, 18 Sep 2012 01:34:26 -0500