New Posts For Thread: Discarding to hidden zoneshttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zonesI'll quote the relevant rule for this question. Rule 701.7c Show If a card is discarded, but an effect causes it to be put into a hidden zone instead of into its owner’s graveyard without being revealed, all values of that card’sIt says to look at the card, but doesn't specifically say to look at the face. Presumably, if it will be face down in the new zone, you look at its face down characteristics to determine which replacement effects to apply.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zones?post_id=524714627#524714627It says to look at the card, but doesn't specifically say to look at the face. Presumably, if it will be face down in the new zone, you look at its face down characteristics to determine which replacement effects to apply.Wed, 03 Oct 2012 06:50:14 -0500[/quote]That rule seems to break Morph, so I think it must not really do what it says.http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zones?post_id=524708589#524708589[/quote]That rule seems to break Morph, so I think it must not really do what it says.Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:45:33 -0500The ruling for Library of Leng that says that the discarded card is kept hidden contradicts rule 400.6. Not revealing the card directly breaks that rule. First all players look at the card, then any appropriate rephttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zones?post_id=524706431#524706431The ruling for Library of Leng that says that the discarded card is kept hidden contradicts rule 400.6. Not revealing the card directly breaks that rule. First all players look at the card, then any appropriate repTue, 02 Oct 2012 21:08:43 -0500Telepathy: "Your opponents play with their hands revealed."I would expect to be able to discard a single revealed artifact card to the library because the card is revealed.The cases where I'd expect to be unable to discard a single artifact card to thttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zones?post_id=524318709#524318709Telepathy: "Your opponents play with their hands revealed."I would expect to be able to discard a single revealed artifact card to the library because the card is revealed.The cases where I'd expect to be unable to discard a single artifact card to tThu, 20 Sep 2012 10:11:46 -0500Legacy, Vintage and Commander are the only formats where both are legalI don't think the library sees play in Legacy/Vintage, and while I run it in some of my Commander decks discard is not common in that format, at least not targetted like Wrenchttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29349141/Discarding_to_hidden_zones?post_id=523833705#523833705Legacy, Vintage and Commander are the only formats where both are legalI don't think the library sees play in Legacy/Vintage, and while I run it in some of my Commander decks discard is not common in that format, at least not targetted like WrencWed, 05 Sep 2012 16:23:35 -0500