New Posts For Thread: Oracle/Gatherer Errors and Fixes - Avacyn Restoredhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_RestoredThanks everyone for their participation in the Dark Ascension version of this thread. You guys found some good stuff, but we've run out of time to look at things for the Dark Ascension update, and we now turn our gaze toward the Avacyn Restored updatThanks everyone for their suggestions and discussion. It's time to start working on the AVR update, so this thread will be closed as soon as I can someone to do that. :)Have fun!http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_Restored?post_id=518237739#518237739Thanks everyone for their suggestions and discussion. It's time to start working on the AVR update, so this thread will be closed as soon as I can someone to do that. :)Have fun!Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:35:00 -0500A lot of entwine spells would work really unintuitively if that change were made, too: Grab the Reins wouldn't let you sac the creature you steal, Plunge into Darkness wouldn't lhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_Restored?post_id=518207161#518207161A lot of entwine spells would work really unintuitively if that change were made, too: Grab the Reins wouldn't let you sac the creature you steal, Plunge into Darkness wouldn't lMon, 02 Apr 2012 20:42:10 -0500First, the inclusion of an "and" would not make it simultaneous. It's the number of verbs that matter, not the conjunctions used. Second, they wouldn't want to make modes simultaneous, at least not by default, because some cards are deliberately makhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_Restored?post_id=518200303#518200303First, the inclusion of an "and" would not make it simultaneous. It's the number of verbs that matter, not the conjunctions used. Second, they wouldn't want to make modes simultaneous, at least not by default, because some cards are deliberately makMon, 02 Apr 2012 16:28:07 -0500Cursed thwarting enchantment creature... :PI take it they didn't like the idea of just making it so that modal spells (when you choose more than one mode) effectively add an "and" in between all sets of modes, thus making them all simultaneous?http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_Restored?post_id=518200187#518200187Cursed thwarting enchantment creature... :PI take it they didn't like the idea of just making it so that modal spells (when you choose more than one mode) effectively add an "and" in between all sets of modes, thus making them all simultaneous?Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:25:12 -0500They actually gave Hull Breach exactly that errata back in January 2009. Then it was pointed out that this was a functional change, so they reverted it in April 2009. The problem is that if you make it a modal spelhttp://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28831309/OracleGatherer_Errors_and_Fixes_-_Avacyn_Restored?post_id=518199803#518199803They actually gave Hull Breach exactly that errata back in January 2009. Then it was pointed out that this was a functional change, so they reverted it in April 2009. The problem is that if you make it a modal spelMon, 02 Apr 2012 16:15:52 -0500