I also would love to see a 'home brew' option for character creation that lets people fully customize feats, skills, magic items, bonuses, etc, etc.
So to clarify this point each subscriber to D&DI will be able to build characters using all the options published in the released books.
Unless they have the e-book they will not be able to get the expanded text/details (use the browse or print form) without the e-book, but will have the information on where these options were published. The e-book gives a D&DI user extra functionalities above the base functions in the character creator.
Dunno if it is mentioned, but I hope the visualizer will include the capability to create PCs of the more "obscure" variety, like planetouched, centaurs, half-ogres, etc.
There will be slot limitation as we can't provide infinite space. We are still figuring out how many slot there will be for each account as it will depend a variety of factors including average file size. We don't want to have a situation where the limited slots number hurt usability but how many that is is still TBD.
56902498 wrote:They will Essentialize the Essentials classes, otherwise known as Essentials2.
The new sub-sub-classes will be:
* Magician. A subsubclass of Mage, the magician has two implements, wand and hat, one familiar (rabbit) and series of basic tricks.
* Crook. A subsubclass of Thief, the Crook can only use a shiv, which allows him to use his only power... Shank.
* Angry Vicar, a subsubclass of warpriest, the angry vicar has two attacks -- Shame and Lecture.
* Hitter. A subsubclass of Slayer, the Hitter hits things.
* Gatherer. A subsubclass of Hunter, it doesn't actually do anything, but pick up the stuff other players might leave behind.
Future Essentials2 classes include the Security Guard (Sentinel2), the Hexknife (Hexblade2), the Webelos (Scout2), the Gallant (Cavalier2) and the Goofus (Knight2).
These will all be detailed in the box set called Heroes of the Futile Marketing.
(Though what they should really release tomorrow is the Essentialized version of the Witchalok!)
This way, when new options pop up on their DDI accounts' Character Creators, people may be intrigued and go buy the corresponding books, rather than being annoyed that they have to enter shared-book mechanics on the sly, in "house rules" mode.
IIRC, Tieflings will be core for 4e, so that implies plane-touched... I wish it implied planeSCAPE, but I will take what I can get. Planewalker.com will no doubt make up for the deficit if WotC don't...
Sharing Access Codes
I play D&D with my wife. We are not going to buy two copies of all your rule books, but I do expect us both to be able to make characters with them. Likewise, I know a father and son who play together, and two brothers in high school. In neither case should Dad have to buy multiple copies of the books.
This is very important, if you want families to play your game together (which I think you should). Also, not everyone in a given group will have every book; and we'll never live in a world where they do.
Please allow registered owners to share their codes (and revoke them) with a limited number of D&D Insider accounts (2-4 more than enough) to address these issues. It can be a control panel in the account information sections: Books Owned (and who you're sharing them with), plus notice of Books Shared With You.
I have a question in how errata will relate to the character creator and other Insider programs. From what I have gathered so far it sounds like the system will work similar to this (please correct me if I am wrong):
I create a character, lets say a figher as an example, for now I'll use 3.x examples since we don't know any rules for 4e. So, I choose a feat for my fighter, lets say Power Attack. If I don't have the e-book unlocked and I want more info on how Power Attack works, it'll tell me what book and what page it is on, correct? If I do have the e-book, it'll link directly to that info in the e-book?
Ok.. lets say that a few months down the road a new book comes out and changes the rules to Power Attack. Will the insider tool tell me both books the info is in? Will it tell me which is the newest info? If I do have the e-book and own both books will it link directly to the most up to date info? will it give me a choice on which to link to (say if I don't like the updated version and choose to use the old version in my game)?
Ok, lets take a different route with this. Lets say that Power Attack is errataed online only. I know that there will be free downloads for updated errata, but how will insider react to this? If I don't own any e-books, will it tell me the most up to date info is in the errata and where to download it? Will there be an option for those of us with e-books to have them display the errata in the e-book itself, or at least maybe have a link to the errataed information?
I currently hate the way errata is done as you don't always know that something is errataed, or even if you do you have to look in 8 different places to find it. With all the online tools you're planning, I think it would be great to have our e-books auto populate or at least update with errata links. Sometimes I feel like current hard books are obsolete when half the time I'm using the errata pages to look up info (this is especially true with outdated books like the Epic book).
All in all I'm very excited for 4e based on the little info we have so far, and insider seems like it'll be no brainer for me :D
We are not giving this away, it is costing us a lot of money to develop.
Why exactly is this feature "for rent" only instead of either offering it for free or selling it as a product in its own right?
4) character generator? You are using a term we do not use: we have mentioned a character sheet application and a character builder application. The character builder allows you to build a representation of your character in 3D and create your miniature for the game table. This is the second part of the prototype movie, and we want this tool to be flexible and the textures, tints and lighting to help getting a character that looks great.
Note that I am not saying that there will not be any character randomized/automated generation. We are still working on those details, and I can't say more on that topic at that stage...
WotC_ScottR said you could "turn off the rules". So maybe you have to pay the small fee to have it automate it for you, or you could just manually do it in "rules off mode"?It will be part of the functionality with "Rules legal" and "home rules" options
It will be part of the functionality with "Rules legal" and "home rules" options
Probably because of the on going cost to maintain something like this.
My first post! I'm so excited . . .
I'm just concerned whether or not all of this stuff will be fully supported by Mac platform. I know it's Internet-based, but I've run into plenty of things on the Internet that don't work because I'm on a Mac. Crossing my fingers . . . :D
Well, it looks like I'll be buying the PHB and little else. Good thing I'm still awesome at FileMaker and hand-drawn illustrations. I am very disappointed, all of my enthusiasm for 4th Edition has pretty much completely evaporated.
- If you do not have the E-book, we will not mention any page number as various edition print may shuffle page numbers around.. you'll get the reference of the book in which it has been printed, and you can refer to the index there to find the page number.
Um... weren't you going to have to build your own if 4e didn't include the Character Creator, etc.? It sounds like you're disappointed that you're not going to be able to buy something you would have found a way around anyway. Granted, your not being able to use it when everyone else can is stinky, but-- in spite of the amount of effort-- what you come up with will be better suited to your personal needs, I don't see where you'll be functionally loosing out.
We don't NEED the Character Creator to create characters. Most of the ones I've seen up 'til now were weird and confusing (especially when custom classes are involved), I'm probably better off doing it all by hand for myself anyway.
Especially since the "Market Research" they did was probably generic PC/Mac marketshare including the mass corporate purchases that skew things in ways inappropriate for the purposes of the Creator and Game Table program.
I have a feeling that if they had done their Market Research specifically on the D&D clientele market, the numbers would have come out significantly different.
Then again, I'm a cynical freak.
I don't have a mac. I have a PC. I use this linux box for everything that I don't need windows for though. I don't understand the whole macite thing. Having said that, I do know enough to know that this person undoubtedly speaks the truth.