Gleemax.com, Wizard's Announcement

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Ok so what I am seeing here is a badly done website that fails to give us things we do not even want and wrapped in a shell of a bad MUD?

We lost Dungeon and Dragon for this?

I mean really, there are 100s of sites out there (Okcupid, myspace, etc) that do this kind of stuff...

Thanks Hasbro... just thanks...
The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.

Don't confuse "willing to click a link once and comment in a forum" with "willing to tolerate poor site design long term."
I don't have a link to ENWorld in my Favorites folder because of the their color scheme, and unless the default of Gleemax changes, I don't expect I'll bother with it either.

Yes, I will completely pass on it no matter how much I might otherwise be interested if I fine the default site an effort to use. It doesn't matter that I might have some personal page where I can change it. That presumes I care to maintain such a page even at a minimal level. I'm barely cognizant of the setting I have for this forum.

I'm aware WotC puts a lot of effort into visual effects and themes for its products. You should be aware of the significant negative effect it can have for some products and effect schemes. The current one for Gleemax will make me a non-customer.
after viewing this gleemax "website" (read catastrophe) i have come to two conclusions. 1) the terrorists have won, and that there is no hope for anything else every. george bush is right, gleemax is run by terrorists.... or zombies. OR 2) there is not an EMP, Cruise missile, Radioactive cleaver wielding baby, meteor, angry fist of god, or apocalyptic ray of transcendental doom big or powerful enough to erase this embarasing stain off the face of all that we hold dear.... and the internet.

p.s. i will be contacting anonymous about this, because anonymous does not sleep
Oh dear.

Is it just me, or is WotC going through a mid-life crisis? Giving itself a 'hip', digital makeover, and trying to ditch their 'old' gamers for younger trade-up gamers.

I feel betrayed.

This hits the nail on the head for me. It's been intimated before that WOTC made a calculated decision to move past the older generation and onto a younger generation of new and up-and-coming players. That's their choice, but a poor one I believe. It's the older crowd like me that has exponentially more disposable income to spend on the hobby. And less and less of a reason to spend it on WOTC products. More money for Paizo, I guess.
Even I seem to be feeling some reservations here. Oddly enough, I can say, at this point, I'm tending to agree with Vargasan here. Still gatherings my thoughts as I'm not quite sure what exactly to make of all of that, but I'll post more later.
So what is this gleemax.com a myspace for D&D players? Because if that is the case I'm not down with it.
Well, the listed features of the upcoming site interest me, bit I have to agree with other people that the name and color scheme have to go. I peeked at the gleemax forums earlier, and I was unable to discern its purpose from a casual 10 second glance. That is a problem that needs to be corrected.

If you do create a site that has online character sheets, camapign information pages, and the like, I might be interested in using it. But the current name and flavor for the site are very disruptive and annoying.

I am still holding out hope for the digital initiative though.
WOW!!! the VAST majority of you will complain about ANYTHING!!
1....its something new
2....you dont have to pay for it
3....they ARE paying for it! (development)
4....you ungrateful people complain!

you all need to learn to appreciate things...i consider myself a gamer, but if gamers are going to be known as ungrateful immature whiners then ill have to find another group of people to identify with.

so now that i have got that off my chest... it seems like it has a lot of potential and a lot of cool possibilities. theres not a lot of information available yet, but im curious to se the direction it goes.

I LOVE THE BRAIN IN THE JAR!!! whats not to love about a brain in a jar!!

and the color scheme is cool. i dont care what anyone else says.
The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.

I'm sorry. I don't get it. Its as meaningless to me as Barney is to my grandfather. Its time to move on.

I've made a ton of friends over the years and met a ton of interesting people; I've been to so many wonderful places (too many to list). All thanks to a simple game. That says more than I ever could. Thanks for the fun and the memories!

Your friend always,
Dwayne Thomas
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The simple fact that you folks are reading this thread (and are engaged enough to actually reply) tells me that you'll find plenty of interest in Gleemax.

Have you never heard the term "morbid curiosity?" I think that you should get very used to the concept, it will be a recurring theme, I think.

Just a couple of quick comments need to be made.

"Gleemax" would be a very bad name for a joke porn-site. To have it associated with DnD in any way is a travesty.

To be tying DnD ever closer to "Magic: the Puling" is a grave error. This is from a rules standpoint and a brand-identification standpoint. Just as the miniatures game continually makes older sets of figures obsolescent; and (from what I understand of the game's dynamic) MtG makes older card sets equally obsolescent, the same lack of reasoning seems to be pervading DnD with every new rule book.

Not everyone wants a "social networking" site. Forums are fine for many of us.

Most blogs are ignored because most people write badly about things few people are interested in. This will not change because WotC is involved in the site.
WOW!!! the VAST majority of you will complain about ANYTHING!!
1....its something new
2....you dont have to pay for it
3....they ARE paying for it! (development)
4....you ungrateful people complain!

you all need to learn to appreciate things...i consider myself a gamer, but if gamers are going to be known as ungrateful immature whiners then ill have to find another group of people to identify with.

so now that i have got that off my chest... it seems like it has a lot of potential and a lot of cool possibilities. theres not a lot of information available yet, but im curious to se the direction it goes.

I LOVE THE BRAIN IN THE JAR!!! whats not to love about a brain in a jar!!

and the color scheme is cool. i dont care what anyone else says.

Agreed.

I think one of the major problems it is running into, at least in this thread, is that right now it has a major leaning toward only one WotC product. Gleemax was a Magic thing up until this, and choosing that name alienates some of the other groups.

Also, to the person that mentioned that they couldn't determine a purpose at first glance, remember that all of the "what are gleemax" posts, plus several games and other related threads got moved into it when it was first made. If you think it's bad now, you should have seen Magic General. The spam was almost unbearable until they did that. Once some of those threads die out, it'll get better.

Now, about that quote above...I think all of you need to just sit back and chill out. If you don't like it, then no one is forcing you to go there. If you don't want to use it, then no one is going to make you. As my mother used to say: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." If you think it's not going to be for you, then just ignore it.

Sorry if this came off as somewhat rantish, but it just seems like you guys are trying to complain. If you are trying to suggest things to improve it, that's a good thing...but not here. I would contact those in charge of it, and probably in a more private format to prevent spammers and nay-sayers from derailing it. Gamer_Zer0 can probably provide a contact route or method.

I apologize if this sounded like a personal attack on anyone, because it wasn't. This is just me speaking my mind, and saying that perhaps you should just see how things turn out, rather than just saying it sounds like a bad idea. Personally, I actually don't think I'll ever use it, but I'm going to reserve judgement, just in case.;)
I'm sorry. I don't get it. Its as meaningless to me as Barney is to my grandfather. Its time to move on.

I've made a ton of friends over the years and met a ton of interesting people; I've been to so many wonderful places (too many to list). All thanks to a simple game. That says more than I ever could. Thanks for the fun and the memories!

Your friend always,
Dwayne Thomas

I am not here to post anything about Gleemax or the DI because it is late (12:20am) and I have a huge presentation to make tomorrow about our 2008 D&D RPG and minis lines (paper based books and plastic BTW). I have read through the thread and there are some strong opinions here (and that is OK). Before go to bed I want to ask one question:

If all the talk of Gleemax/DI/etc is not your cup of tea why would you quit the game instead of just continuing to play D&D the way you like to?

Sincerely,
"Gleemax" would be a very bad name for a joke porn-site. To have it associated with DnD in any way is a travesty.

To be tying DnD ever closer to "Magic: the Puling" is a grave error. This is from a rules standpoint and a brand-identification standpoint. .

Ok I said I wouldn't post anything else tonight (now 12:30 am) but I do want to address this witha quote from Randy Buehler from his ICv2 interview.

[INDENT]"We do have plans for D&D. I'm sure you noticed the license to the Dungeon magazine and the Dragon magazine reverted to us. We let people know that we have plans, but we're not ready to announce them yet. The story that we're ready to tell at this stage is the story about Gleemax. The story about D&D is for another day"[/INDENT]

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/10728.html

Until another day, just keep playing.
"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

I don't believe anyone here has said anything "not nice". I can't see how there's anything wrong with asking for more information, or in expressing doubts over such a thing so significant as this Gleemax/Digital Initiative thing. Frankly, I'm irritated that people once again are trying to divide themselves into "Pro-WotC" and "Anti-WotC" groups, putting down anyone who doesn't eagerly gulp down every bit of crap the company gives us. If people don't like something about a product or such, they should complain: that's what these boards are for, and complaining tells the company that something is wrong in the hopes of it being fixed. If you disagree with someone else's opinion, you are perfectly capable of skipping over it (even adding them to your ignore list, if you feel the need). If the person is not breaking the CoC, it's unnecessary to don troll and flame gear before plowing into the discussion.
I'm not trying to be pro or anti WotC. Actually, when I posted that, I was mainly thinking about Vargasan taking Gamer_Zer0's every possible use and reason and give a counterpoint reason as it applied to him. To me, that's just trying to find something wrong with it, as Gamer_Zer0 pointed out fairly quickly. Asking for more information: Good. Taking ideas and uses from the Rep and just rejecting them because you can't see a use for it: Not good.

But then again, that's just me. Again, no offense to Vargasan, as I kinda singled him out this time.
Ok I said I wouldn't post anything else tonight (now 12:30 am) but I do want to address this with a quote from Randy Buehler from his ICv2 interview.

[INDENT]"We do have plans for D&D. I'm sure you noticed the license to the Dungeon magazine and the Dragon magazine reverted to us. We let people know that we have plans, but we're not ready to announce them yet. The story that we're ready to tell at this stage is the story about Gleemax. The story about D&D is for another day"[/INDENT]

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/10728.html

Until another day, just keep playing.

Thanks for replying to my post. Since I have no idea what an "ICv2" is, I fail to see how it applies to most of what I wrote.
I've made a ton of friends over the years and met a ton of interesting people; I've been to so many wonderful places (too many to list). All thanks to a simple game. That says more than I ever could. Thanks for the fun and the memories!

You'd be amazed at how many "Looking for players" threads we have to move each month. We've got a whole forum for it, and no matter what we do to keep people informed that such a forum exists, (one attempt included making the link in a "can't miss it" blue color.) folks still post "looking for gamers" all over the place.
I'm not trying to be pro or anti WotC. Actually, when I posted that, I was mainly thinking about Vargasan taking Gamer_Zer0's every possible use and reason and give a counterpoint reason as it applied to him. To me, that's just trying to find something wrong with it, as Gamer_Zer0 pointed out fairly quickly. Asking for more information: Good. Taking ideas and uses from the Rep and just rejecting them because you can't see a use for it: Not good.

But then again, that's just me. Again, no offense to Vargasan, as I kinda singled him out this time.

I think it's unfair to assume Vargasan was disagreeing just to be contrary, especially since many other posters made the exact same questions and concerns. I also see it as a bit of a cop-out to questions that don't seem to have any satisfying answers.

I really would like to know about anything beneficial or worthwhile in this "Digital Initiative," but all I see is a bunch of unnecessary gimmicks, poorly designed layouts, and redundant features (as in: we already have a discussion board and news site). If someone else can find enjoyment from some evil mind-controlling MySpace wannabe, then fine. I myself just cannot see the appeal.

You'd be amazed at how many "Looking for players" threads we have to move each month. We've got a whole forum for it, and no matter what we do to keep people informed that such a forum exists, (one attempt included making the link in a "can't miss it" blue color.) folks still post "looking for gamers" all over the place.

I wonder if some special "GM/Player finding feature" will change that, and how many more misplaced posts there will be from people who can't find the nonexistent message board section for it, so they just put it in the Gleemax-equivalent of D&D General.
you all need to learn to appreciate things...i consider myself a gamer, but if gamers are going to be known as ungrateful immature whiners then ill have to find another group of people to identify with.

Pretending to like something you have no plans on paying for would be dishonest on my part. If you have a defense for Gleemax give it, rather than simply say dissenters are whining.

That said, I do find myself torn. On the one hand, I look at Gleemax and see a terrible site that burns my eyes. I think that it, as others have said, is trying to market itself as some kind of hip, new, and supposedly useful thing and I don't feel like that's the case.

OTOH, I do believe there is a lot of potential for the Digital Initiative which isn't saying the mags had to die for it. I am hoping Wizards realizes they need to give us more content and less social-networking illusions for the DI to be worthy of taking the place of the mags.
If you don't like it, then no one is forcing you to go there. If you don't want to use it, then no one is going to make you. As my mother used to say: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." If you think it's not going to be for you, then just ignore it.

Great advice.

As I currently don't see a need for what Gleemax.com is offering, I think I'll just ignore it and continue on my merry way.

However, if no one expresses their dislike of the advertised features, and instead stays away from the site, how will WotC make it a useful, meaningful place for people to gather?

In short, if only a few hundred people visit because everyone else considers the site's content superfluous (and thus, don't comment or visit the site), how is WotC going to make this the "Next Big Thing" as they plan?
The story that we're ready to tell at this stage is the story about Gleemax. The story about D&D is for another day"

I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand this is just one small part of the big whatchamathingy....Digital Initiative. That was patently obvious the moment Gleemax was unveiled.
It's more the direction and theme of the site, what it seeks to accomplish and such that has people questioning it. A lot of people want to see what was so great that the mags had to die for it....myself included. I personally wasn't wowed but I am still holding out some desperate hope.
If all the talk of Gleemax/DI/etc is not your cup of tea why would you quit the game instead of just continuing to play D&D the way you like to?

Sincerely,

I've been "on the bubble" since the cancelation of the mags; I took the news really hard.

You're right, Gleemax isn't my cup of tea. I don't intend to quit the game; I will continue to play with the same small circle of friends I always have. By the same token, the hobby seems to be evolving into the MySpace generation, something I just don't get. Instead of making my world larger, my hobby has lost some of its appeal. Its time to move on.

Scott, with all sincerity and utmost respect, thank you .
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I wonder if some special "GM/Player finding feature" will change that, and how many more misplaced posts there will be from people who can't find the nonexistent message board section for it, so they just put it in the Gleemax-equivalent of D&D General.

What do you mean, nonexistent? It's right here> http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=347
yeah, well I tell you what I wasn't wowed with, Dragon and Dungeon magazine over the past 15 years. Everyone talks about Dragon and Dungeon magazine like it has the midas touch or something. My FLGS wouldn't even order Dragon or Dungeon unless they know they already have it sold ie someone asks for it. Searching for good articles in Dragon and Dungeon magazines in the past few years has become like buying a CD for one good song and even that song wasnt THAT good. As one of my friends likes to say "It looks really pretty, but what does any of that have to do with me", That is how I've felt about Dragon for a long time now.

I personally don't care what the "cover" of Gleemax looks like, I want to see what it will offer me. I thought it was one of those lessons learned in life about maturity that you not judge a book by its cover. Not to mention, such a product seems to want to promote FLGS's and even other gaming systems. I think the mature thing is to look past its cover and see what it will offer in time. If it brings gaming more life, offers non-gamers a place to get their feet wet and see if they like it or in some other way promotes a better community for gaming then who honestly cares what the theme is?
1....its something new
2....you dont have to pay for it

I disagree.

1: So far, it's not offering anything we don't already have.

2: We did pay for it; we sacrificed Dungeon and Dragon Magazines for it. That was our payment.
I disagree.

1: So far, it's not offering anything we don't already have.

We don't have "submit a picture for points."

2: We did pay for it; we sacrificed Dungeon and Dragon Magazines for it. That was our payment.

That's the second time I've seen someone try to link Gleemax up with the magazine licenses. They are not directly connected.
We don't have "submit a picture for points."
That's the second time I've seen someone try to link Gleemax up with the magazine licenses. They are not directly connected.

To be fair, if anyone funded the Digital Initiative it's probably MTGO- you can kind of see that the idea was pitched on its "success", and some resources from Magic Online are known to have been diverted into making the Goblin Game at least. We don’t know what resources were diverted into the DI however, we just know that apparently we’re apart of it- even though we’re not really affected by it. Maybe I’m wrong, time will tell.

From what I can tell, it seems like an attempt to promote paper/table top communites, but its still pretty vague, and the marketing is specifically towards a younger audience. Its a reconciliation between paper and online, not an alternative such as MTGO. It seems like a tremendous task though, and it's pretty obvious that they're investing quite a lot into it- which is worrying considering the idea needs to be handled extremely well to be succesful, but it's not like all of Wotc's initiatives have been a success. So the big question is what happens if it flops, and what exactly is funding it.
Ok I said I wouldn't post anything else tonight (now 12:30 am) but I do want to address this witha quote from Randy Buehler from his ICv2 interview.

[INDENT]"We do have plans for D&D. I'm sure you noticed the license to the Dungeon magazine and the Dragon magazine reverted to us. We let people know that we have plans, but we're not ready to announce them yet. The story that we're ready to tell at this stage is the story about Gleemax. The story about D&D is for another day"[/INDENT]

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/10728.html

Until another day, just keep playing.

I figured that Gleemax =/= DI (since it's way too early for that), but like I said, I wasn't especially encouraged by it. It does indeed sound like a Myspace for gamers, which is what I thought Gamer_Zer0 was implying. *shrug* Not interested.

That said, I am content to wait to see the DI before passing judgement.

And after reading the latest OotS I'm in such a cheerful mood that it fails to bug me in the slightest!
And after reading the latest OotS I'm in such a cheerful mood that it fails to bug me in the slightest!

Agreed...All my nitpickyness and irritations just kinda melted away...funny how that works.
To be fair, if anyone funded the Digital Initiative it's probably MTGO- you can kind of see that the idea was pitched on its "success", and some resources from Magic Online are known to have been diverted into making the Goblin Game at least. We don’t know what resources were diverted into the DI however, we just know that apparently we’re apart of it- even though we’re not really affected by it. Maybe I’m wrong, time will tell.

From what I can tell, it seems like an attempt to promote paper/table top communites, but its still pretty vague, and the marketing is specifically towards a younger audience. Its a reconciliation between paper and online, not an alternative such as MTGO. It seems like a tremendous task though, and it's pretty obvious that they're investing quite a lot into it- which is worrying considering the idea needs to be handled extremely well to be succesful, but it's not like all of Wotc's initiatives have been a success. So the big question is what happens if it flops, and what exactly is funding it.

Very true, but I don't think there's any seperate "fund" as it were from the different brands. It all comes from the same source: WotC.
and the color scheme is cool. i dont care what anyone else says.

The color scheme quite literally gave me a headache. I had to leave the site. Which means it doesn't matter what cool content is out there for me to look over - I can't.

Scott, Mike, somebody - is there any chance of choosing more normal colors? Right now, I can't give your portal a fair chance, because I can't spend more than a couple minutes looking at the colors.

Ok I said I wouldn't post anything else tonight (now 12:30 am) but I do want to address this witha quote from Randy Buehler from his ICv2 interview.

[INDENT]"We do have plans for D&D. I'm sure you noticed the license to the Dungeon magazine and the Dragon magazine reverted to us. We let people know that we have plans, but we're not ready to announce them yet. The story that we're ready to tell at this stage is the story about Gleemax. The story about D&D is for another day"[/INDENT]

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/10728.html

Until another day, just keep playing.

1) What's icv2? I've never heard of it...

2) Is Gleemax the "Digital Initiative" that's replacing Dragon and Dungeon?
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What if that personal page had a tool that allowed you to put in all the info from your current and retired D&D characters? It could also have information about you, your location, age if you choose, what campaigns you're currently running, etc.

You know, in another thread at another time, I asked a question regarding how flexible and consumer-reactive WotC was prepared to be. Here comes the moment to flex.

This could be REALLY useful. Or it could be a pointless ego boost. The difference is that if posted characters could be easily indexed and searched, this could be REALLY useful. If posted character sheets/statblocks can't be trivially searched by class/race, then this is a waste of effort.

Hear me now. If you turn this feature into a massive pile of ready-to-use NPC statblocks generated by the community, this one feature will be a boon to DMs everywhere. If you fail to do so, you are inventing a MySpace page for us geeks, who are fairly typically socially inept.

In closure, I'm using this feature you mention as an example of the difference between awesome and pointless. Everything about the DI must be useful and powerful. Not cool and shiny. Good luck.
Just looked at the site. My gods, thats a lot of green. I haven't read this whole thread (brain isn't really up to it) but could someone please confirm for me that the forums will be sticking around?

Dragonlover
The color scheme quite literally gave me a headache. I had to leave the site. Which means it doesn't matter what cool content is out there for me to look over - I can't.

Scott, Mike, somebody - is there any chance of choosing more normal colors? Right now, I can't give your portal a fair chance, because I can't spend more than a couple minutes looking at the colors.

I'm going to be passing that on (along with other info) when I get into work this morning.


1) What's icv2? I've never heard of it...

http://www.icv2.com/index.html

It's basically a news site that covers toys and games, among other things.

2) Is Gleemax the "Digital Initiative" that's replacing Dragon and Dungeon?

No. Gleemax is the social networking side and infrastructure that will support the D&D DI when it's launched. Think of Gleemax as the Stadium and D&D as the band or sports team you're going to see. The band isn't going to bring their own plumbing and seats to the stadium, but they're going to bring their own content.
You know, in another thread at another time, I asked a question regarding how flexible and consumer-reactive WotC was prepared to be. Here comes the moment to flex.

This could be REALLY useful. Or it could be a pointless ego boost. The difference is that if posted characters could be easily indexed and searched, this could be REALLY useful. If posted character sheets/statblocks can't be trivially searched by class/race, then this is a waste of effort.

This is an example of the exact type of feedback that will be helpful. (although I know folks have already been thinking about how search will work on everything, especially stuff like that) I'm hoping that once we get over the name and the color scheme of the launch page, we can shift the discussion on how we can make sure this stuff is as useful for the community as possible.

Hear me now. If you turn this feature into a massive pile of ready-to-use NPC statblocks generated by the community, this one feature will be a boon to DMs everywhere. If you fail to do so, you are inventing a MySpace page for us geeks, who are fairly typically socially inept.

Right. It's not supposed to be a dating or popularity site. Gleemax is intended to give gamers the tools they need to help support their gaming, including meeting other gamers of like mind.
Well, in regards to some of the posts I've seen, I'd actually have to say that I didn't get a hateful or derogatory vibe from them. I have seen honest confusion, as I have felt myself. If you look at some of the posters personal information, you'll probably notice that the bulk of us are in the 25-35 age range. In gaming terms, that places us firmly in the "crotchety old folk" catagory.

Gleemax is indeed shiny, new, and flashy. Gleemax is kinda like bubble gum, when most of us are quite past bubble gum. Doesn't mean bubble gum is bad, I remember bubble gum, and remember that I enjoyed it once, but, yes, unfortunently, outgrew it. And some are merely questioning if Gleemax is meant to be for us.

Also, I wouldn't say that there has been a major rush to judgement, but as was pointed out, Gleemax is a Magic thing, and we are D&D gamers (for the most part), and our understanding and comprehension of it is limited.

If Gleemax isn't intended for the D&D community, I think it just enhances the anticpation of what exactly the DI (or at least teh D&D portion of the DI) will be. But, I would have to say that painfully lime-green text on a black background is moderately unappealing to me as well. Yes, I can read it, but I must say, reading black text on parchment colored backgrounds is significantly more plesaing for me. I think something more sedate and straight forward is what is desired here. Clearly delineated sections as what can be found on the main D&D pages, as well as the preposed content shift from Dragon and Dungeon.

At first blush though, I must say Gleemax kinda reminded me of some horrid mix between some alien varient of HAL and the "the computer" from the Paranoia RPG.
If all the talk of Gleemax/DI/etc is not your cup of tea why would you quit the game instead of just continuing to play D&D the way you like to?

Please, look at the real picture.

People aren't quiting the game. This isn't (yet) an MMO that we have to pay monthly for. We'll simply quit buying WoTC products. How's that sound?

WoTC has failed before with making promises it just couldn't keep. From poor editing that would be acceptable in a magazine but far from it in a hard cover book (ironically, Dragon had wonderful editing), to total dropping the ball on online content so far. There is NO reason to believe that the DI will be any less than an incompetent mess ... the best we can hope for is that it works marginally.
Thanks for replying to my post. Since I have no idea what an "ICv2" is, I fail to see how it applies to most of what I wrote.

And by the way, spell-checkers do not stop working at any given time of day. If you do not know where to find one for your browser, PM me. I should be able to help you find one.

There is also a search engine function in your browser as well. Let me know if you need help looking for "ICv2".

Complaining about spelling in a gaming board is like complaining about Smoke in a burning building.
The color scheme quite literally gave me a headache. I had to leave the site. Which means it doesn't matter what cool content is out there for me to look over - I can't.

Scott, Mike, somebody - is there any chance of choosing more normal colors? Right now, I can't give your portal a fair chance, because I can't spend more than a couple minutes looking at the colors.

Gee, my light red (pink) forum idea doesn't look so bad anymore. :P

From what I read somewhere else around here, they're working on letting you set the colors to your default color scheme.