That there is no role playing in Dungeons and Dragons 4th edition is bullcrap! If you want to role play than role play, don't enter combat. Even in combat there is still role playing! You are still taking the role of a single character combat or no. So if you create a character in a game and you tell what he says and does (in or out of combat) you are still role playing no matter what. The people who say 4th edition (or any edition) is a miniatures or wargame are morons! The difference between role playing games wargames are that in an rpg you don't control an entire army and battle another, in D&D 4th edition, you and your friends create characters,work together,kill monsters,and gain xp,treasure,and other rewards!