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2 years ago ::
Dec 17, 2010 - 3:53PM
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This vote is on accepting the plane Ihn Gallad by Yanmato1 into canon. Ihn Gallad will be open if accepted. Link to the workVoting will last one week. (seven days)
… and then, the squirrels came.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 17, 2010 - 5:53PM
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- Unconventional Mafia Pro
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Yay. I love that this world takes advantage of the fact we aren't working in a scientific-based multiverse, and the amount of development it displays is truly astounding.
Yay: 1
Nay: 0
Abstain: 0
Not As Is: 0
"Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice." THE COALITION WAR GAME-Phyrexian Praetor Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill) Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills) Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill) Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills) Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills) Round 6: (8-7-1) [current round] Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920
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2 years ago ::
Dec 17, 2010 - 11:10PM
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I'm not even sure the author of a work should be ALLOWED to vote on it, so I abstain. Also, I could've sworn I had submitted this plane as a public (  ) work... Yay: 1 Nay: 0 Abstain: 1 Not As Is: 0
"The truth resists simplicity." Some memorable quotes
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I know, as a good liberal scholar, that I'm supposed to respect every other belief and culture and what have you that comes along but... at the end of the day, when all is said and done, some things are just plain wrong.
Venser "Ah, Hello Myr. This is the King. Long Time no see. We thought today would be a good day for rolling. The Myr Battlesphere. The Myr. Where the first rolls and the second follows. Roll, roll, roll. For that purpose we went to the bother, the bother of fixing up Mirrodin. The King of the Multiverse going to the bother just for rolling a Myr Battlephere, just for that, we went to the bother."
Heard a joke once: Mare goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says she feels all alone in a threatening world where even ponies you thought were your friends can't be trusted. Doctor says "Treatment is simple. Go to one of Pinkie Pie's great parties tonight. Party hard. That should pick you up." Mare bursts into tears. Says "But, doctor...I am Pinkie Pie." Good joke. Everypony laughs. Roll on snare drum. Curtains. Fade to black.
Sure, "the average person" might go see Transformers 3 if s/he wants a good story, but that doesn't stop people from making decent movies. Hell, they even managed to make Batman into a respectable movie. "The average" person might like American Idol or Jersey Shore, but people still made The Wire.
I think the people who would sit down and listen to a minstrel reciting Homer, or thought that novels were art, or read poetry were always a minority. It's a common viewpoint that art was better in the past because everyone's forgotten the bad stuff, while we haven't had time to forget the awful stuff that is current.
For almost all Magic fans, the "story" of Ravnica, for example, is that it's a city world with ten guilds -- yes, for most, that's a "story." All but a tiny fraction of the fan base are entirely unaware of an elaborate plot perpetrated by Augustin IV to trick Agrus Kos and Szadek into breaking the Guildpact, thereby enabling the Azorius to take control. Likewise, the vast majority of Magic players don't know who Harbin is, or Nivea, or Al-Hayat, or Feather, or Jared Carthalion, or Rebbec, or Zagorka ... the list goes on and on.
I'm pulling this out of nowhere and it has nothing like fact attached to it, but it cannot be disproven without breaking the fourth wall, and this is going to be my headcanon because it makes perfect sense.
I posit [Tamiyo, the Moon Sage] writes the Planeswalker's Guides to planes.
CANON is the collected events and details of a fictional work that come directly from its author or someone with equal authority to the author.
CANNON is a weapon that fires metal balls at a target, usually a structure or a crowd of enemy combatants.
Every time you confuse the two, I'm forced to break one of my own fingers.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 17, 2010 - 11:22PM
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- Unconventional Mafia Pro
- Dark Lord
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Abstaining is proper. the author is allowed to vote to provide a quorum for business to be done. it helps.
"Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice." THE COALITION WAR GAME-Phyrexian Praetor Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill) Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills) Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill) Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills) Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills) Round 6: (8-7-1) [current round] Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 7:24AM
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Yanmotos work always impresses me, and this is no different. This world has no real gimmick, it's just a world fleshed out from the start. I approve.
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Nay: 0
Abstain: 1
Not As Is: 0
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 10:33AM
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I have to admit that I haven't looked through the whole thing yet. It's... kind of enormous. I love what I've seen so far, though. It looks like a solid world design without gimmicks and with a lot of potential for story growth. If I come across anything problematic I'll change this to Not As Is, but right now I don't see any reason to vote anything other than Yay!
Yay: 3
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1
Not As Is: 0
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 3:43PM
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Date Joined:
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My rules for planar votes:
1) Does this plane provide unique options not found on other planes?
2) Does this plane feel magic-esque?
3) Does this plane have a defining feature?
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I think Ihn Gallad meets all three criteria.
My only comment, and it's not big enough for me even to vote "not as is" is that the names Cinders and Nezumi are out of place. (Flamekin are fine as Ravnica showed that's the name of the race). Cinders might also be fine, but Nezumi is too Kamigawa focused for my liking.
I would suggest changing Nezumi to something else. But i vote Yay.
Yay: 4
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1
Not As Is: 0
… and then, the squirrels came.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 4:25PM
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I liked Ihn Galad well enough. It's generic (in a good way) and still provides uniqueness and mistery. I do have the same problem as Skibo with using Nezumi, but this doesn't annoy me enough (nor does it measure up to the things I did like) to use it against the plane.
Yay: 5
Nay: 0
Abstain: 1
Not As Is: 0
"What is etherium but the next logical step?" It's all my fault.
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Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.
oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 7:48PM
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Wow. Thank you so much, everyone. And to address naming concerns: I may not have made it clear enough in the right places, but while they call themselves nezumi, other races and societies generally just refer to them as rat people. The same goes for leonin (cat people) and aven (bird people). But if it really is bothersome (and I can understand that), I wouldn't be opposed to their name being changed to something the council feels more comfortable with. Incidentally, nezumi is probably just Kamito for "rat person" or something. 
"The truth resists simplicity." Some memorable quotes
Show
I know, as a good liberal scholar, that I'm supposed to respect every other belief and culture and what have you that comes along but... at the end of the day, when all is said and done, some things are just plain wrong.
Venser "Ah, Hello Myr. This is the King. Long Time no see. We thought today would be a good day for rolling. The Myr Battlesphere. The Myr. Where the first rolls and the second follows. Roll, roll, roll. For that purpose we went to the bother, the bother of fixing up Mirrodin. The King of the Multiverse going to the bother just for rolling a Myr Battlephere, just for that, we went to the bother."
Heard a joke once: Mare goes to doctor. Says she's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says she feels all alone in a threatening world where even ponies you thought were your friends can't be trusted. Doctor says "Treatment is simple. Go to one of Pinkie Pie's great parties tonight. Party hard. That should pick you up." Mare bursts into tears. Says "But, doctor...I am Pinkie Pie." Good joke. Everypony laughs. Roll on snare drum. Curtains. Fade to black.
Sure, "the average person" might go see Transformers 3 if s/he wants a good story, but that doesn't stop people from making decent movies. Hell, they even managed to make Batman into a respectable movie. "The average" person might like American Idol or Jersey Shore, but people still made The Wire.
I think the people who would sit down and listen to a minstrel reciting Homer, or thought that novels were art, or read poetry were always a minority. It's a common viewpoint that art was better in the past because everyone's forgotten the bad stuff, while we haven't had time to forget the awful stuff that is current.
For almost all Magic fans, the "story" of Ravnica, for example, is that it's a city world with ten guilds -- yes, for most, that's a "story." All but a tiny fraction of the fan base are entirely unaware of an elaborate plot perpetrated by Augustin IV to trick Agrus Kos and Szadek into breaking the Guildpact, thereby enabling the Azorius to take control. Likewise, the vast majority of Magic players don't know who Harbin is, or Nivea, or Al-Hayat, or Feather, or Jared Carthalion, or Rebbec, or Zagorka ... the list goes on and on.
I'm pulling this out of nowhere and it has nothing like fact attached to it, but it cannot be disproven without breaking the fourth wall, and this is going to be my headcanon because it makes perfect sense.
I posit [Tamiyo, the Moon Sage] writes the Planeswalker's Guides to planes.
CANON is the collected events and details of a fictional work that come directly from its author or someone with equal authority to the author.
CANNON is a weapon that fires metal balls at a target, usually a structure or a crowd of enemy combatants.
Every time you confuse the two, I'm forced to break one of my own fingers.
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2 years ago ::
Dec 18, 2010 - 9:03PM
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Date Joined:
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Well i look at it like this...
The Leonin of Naya were Nacatl.
I don't think rat folk have an offical name yet because they've only shown up in Kamigawa. But i think Nezumi is the Kamigawa specific name for them, just as Nacatl is the Naya name for leonin.
But we don't call the leonin of Mirrodin Nacatl.
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Similarly, when i did Fox folk for Scargotto, i didn't call them Kitsune because i feel that's the Kamigawan name for whatever the folk folk race is called. (I wouldn't want to name them because one day they'll do fox/rat folk again, and likely give them a proper name)
So i would suggest giving the ratfolk a setting specific name.
… and then, the squirrels came.
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