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2 months ago ::
Apr 19, 2013 - 1:40AM
#431
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Date Joined:
Mar 15, 2013
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How many times do I have to say it?
CORE DOES NOT MEAN MANDATORY. A DM IS FREE TO DISALLOW ANY GAME ELEMENT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS PRINTED IN THE INITIAL BOOK OUTLAY OR SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL.
Jesus Christ, this isn't complicated.
Apparently some people are slow learners.
I agree with that
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2 months ago ::
Apr 19, 2013 - 8:47AM
#432
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I want dragonborn put in the optional module for "non-standard races."
One of the things I hated about 4E was making them a core race. Because that meant that every campaign world now had to get shoehorned into accepting them.
I'd be cool with them having thier own setting, like what Eberron did for Warforged and Kalashtar, or what Dragonlance did for minotaurs. But just because Dark Sun has half-giants and thri-kreen, I don't want to feel like I'm now forced to include those races as PCs if I'm running Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk.
That's why I like the idea of keeping the default core races very small.
Again, "Core" doesn't mean "had to be in every world". The FR books gave a couple of paragraphs as to where they could be inserted in the Realms and a default way they could fit in culturally, but never claimed you had to use them or you were "doing it wrong" or even use their "homeland" for Dragonborn.
"Core" means these are the guts of the game. "Core" means tools to be used in whichever way we take the game. They're the bits they design and give to us for use, not dictated that we must use them.
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2 months ago ::
Apr 19, 2013 - 9:21PM
#433
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Date Joined:
Oct 25, 2010
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Again, "Core" doesn't mean "had to be in every world". The FR books gave a couple of paragraphs as to where they could be inserted in the Realms and a default way they could fit in culturally, but never claimed you had to use them or you were "doing it wrong" or even use their "homeland" for Dragonborn.
But as far as a marketing standpoint, that's exactly what it meant. You can't find a 4E setting that didn't include dragonborn or tieflings. Everyone feared they'd get shoehorned into every setting because they're core, and that's exactly what happened.
You can claim all you want about what core means or doesn't mean, but I know what WotC is going to do to every campaign setting the moment they get the "core" label. I've already seen it happen in 4E and there's no reason to believe it won't happen the exact same way in D&DN.
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2 months ago ::
Apr 20, 2013 - 12:05AM
#434
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Date Joined:
Jun 15, 2006
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The dragonborn need a prestige/template class to get a shapeshifter power like druid wildshape and polymorph himself to a true dragon like it had been a monster class since the begining.
There is a great potential to create stories about humanoids who become dragons and the old "purebrood", like the "new rich one" and the "old blue-blood aristocrazy" (or like some vampire books where new generations face ancients vampire lords).
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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2 months ago ::
Apr 20, 2013 - 4:59AM
#435
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Date Joined:
Jun 22, 2010
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Campaign worlds can determine how common races are, and offer options for introducing others. The flagship campaign world should include all races. Other products like race books, should include any race that is valid, including monsters as races. They can start with a bare minimum of races in basic, and then add more in standard (including tieflings and dragonborn), just like the warlord class. Then the table can decide what they want to use.
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