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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 9:06PM
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Recently, James described hippogriffs and griffons in his Wandering Monsters article. Jon has chosen to tackle the elusive hybrid of hippogriff and griffon, called the hippogriffon, in his. (No, not really. He's sticking to the hippogriff.) Visually, what do you want in a hippogriff? Jon asks you to think about this and provide feedback in this week’s column. Dragon's Eye View: Hippogriffon
Quentin Small
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 9:11PM
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Jan 12, 2013
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I like the bw art. Not enought bw art these days.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 9:13PM
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May 24, 2012
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Honestly, for me, the best hippogriff I have ever seen is that 3E one (the one on the far right of the images in this article).
And I'm an old school 1E/2E guy, so that's not nostalgia talking - that 3E Monster Manual image of a hippogriff is just plain spot on in my opinion.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 11:00PM
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Honestly, I think the 3.5 art for the Hippogriff is just about perfect. You could mess around with the coloration, and that would be fine, but as far as anatomical concerns, it just plain wins. I think the reason that it works so well is that it actually looks like its own creature rather than just a bunch of creatures slapped together, which tends to look silly even if it does follow the more classic mythological descriptions. It looks like something that could believably be simplistically described as a cross between an eagle and a horse, yet it still look like a realistic animal that could theoretically exist. This of this as similar to how the popular incarnation of the Minotaur is no longer the simple bull's head on a man's body but rather more of a humanoid bull.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 11:03PM
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Griffin is like a lion and hippogriff like a cheetah, Griffin like a boser dog and hippogriff like greyhound.
I like the picture of the right (the classic one from Monster Manual 3r Ed) and the new (black and white) from center-left.
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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4 months ago ::
Jan 22, 2013 - 11:17PM
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Sep 30, 2006
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the hippogriffs from the harry potter movies get my vote for the best representation.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 4:36AM
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A hippogriff was taught to me as as the offspring of a male griffon and mare by my old biology teacher who added on into my ecosystem project (JUST TO MESS WITH ME!).
He made me use the Orlando Furioso's version I belive.
"For him a filly to griffin bore; Hight hippogryph. In wings and beak and crest, Formed like his sire, as in the feet before; But like the mare, his dam, in all the rest"
So a horse with wings, an eagle head, talons for forlegs, and maybe a lion's tail.
Orzel, Halfelven son of Zel, Mystic Ranger, Bane to Dragons, Death to Undeath, Killer of Abyssals, King of the Wilds.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 5:09AM
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Dec 11, 2006
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For me, Hippogriff has always looked like Horse+Eagle and Griffon was Lion+Eagle, but that's simply how I told them appart.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 5:33AM
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Nov 19, 2007
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In my worldview, a hippogriff is eagle/horse. A griffin (gryphon) is eagle/lion (or hawk/lion as a variant). Definitely not the same creature. Both have avian characteristics from beaks to front claws and wings, and mammal from shoulders/withers the rest of the way back.
Just as there can be varieties of eagles and hawks and of horses, there can be variants in both hippogriffs and griffins. (If there are variants of lions, then they can factor into it, too.)
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 6:40AM
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Jun 15, 2006
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Could a lesser brother be a canon D&D creature? 
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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