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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 10:35PM
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It doesn't have to specifically say this since Rope Trick doesn't create an extradimensional space. It create an invisible entrance that leads to an extradimensional space for 1 hour and drop everything out of the extradimensional space when the spell ends.
It doesn't state when the spell ends. The spell has NO duration. Nothing says the space vanishes when the doorway does. or that the doorway vanishes if the space does (though it's not much good since it wouldn't lead anywhere). I stand by what I said in the last post of mine.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 10:37PM
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It doesn't have to specifically say this since Rope Trick doesn't create an extradimensional space. It create an invisible entrance that leads to an extradimensional space for 1 hour and drop everything out of the extradimensional space when the spell ends.
It doesn't state when the spell ends. The spell has NO duration. Nothing says the space vanishes when the doorway does. or that the doorway vanishes if the space does (though it's not much good since it wouldn't lead anywhere). I stand by what I said in the last post of mine.
you know, technically all the spell does is create the doorway. so when the doorway dissapears, the spell ends
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 10:49PM
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It doesn't have to specifically say this since Rope Trick doesn't create an extradimensional space. It create an invisible entrance that leads to an extradimensional space for 1 hour and drop everything out of the extradimensional space when the spell ends.
It doesn't state when the spell ends. The spell has NO duration. Nothing says the space vanishes when the doorway does. or that the doorway vanishes if the space does (though it's not much good since it wouldn't lead anywhere). I stand by what I said in the last post of mine.
you know, technically all the spell does is create the doorway. so when the doorway dissapears, the spell ends
Nope, not at all. It has to also create the space you go to. If it was JUST a doorway, then it's conjuration (gate/teleport), but it is instead transmutation.
Counterpoint: If the space is fact isn't created be the spell, then where is it before and after the is cast? Is there a pile of empty balls floating in extradimensional space? isn't more likely that the spell creates the space?
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 10:57PM
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Nothing says the space vanishes when the doorway does. or that the doorway vanishes if the space does
True, the extradimensional space doesn't vanish since Rope Trick doesn't create one.
What Rope Trick does is create an entrance to an extradimensional space that last for 1 hour and drop everything out of the extradimensional space when it ends.
Technically the extradimensional space is still there somewhere empty, as it was before you created an entrance to it with Rope Trick. 
Where your assertion is incorrect is in saying Rope Trick has no duration. It has one for what it creates (an entrance to an extradimensional space) and its 1 hour. And at the end of this period, anything in the extradimensional space drop out.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 11:11PM
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It doesn't have to specifically say this since Rope Trick doesn't create an extradimensional space. It create an invisible entrance that leads to an extradimensional space for 1 hour and drop everything out of the extradimensional space when the spell ends.
It doesn't state when the spell ends. The spell has NO duration. Nothing says the space vanishes when the doorway does. or that the doorway vanishes if the space does (though it's not much good since it wouldn't lead anywhere). I stand by what I said in the last post of mine.
you know, technically all the spell does is create the doorway. so when the doorway dissapears, the spell ends
Nope, not at all. It has to also create the space you go to. If it was JUST a doorway, then it's conjuration (gate/teleport), but it is instead transmutation.
Counterpoint: If the space is fact isn't created be the spell, then where is it before and after the is cast? Is there a pile of empty balls floating in extradimensional space? isn't more likely that the spell creates the space?
to your counterpoint, the dimensions arent floating around. they are just that. another dimension. ropetrick merely creates a gate between the two
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5 months ago ::
Jan 06, 2013 - 9:07AM
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Well I'm just going to say that i don't agree with you guys and that I read it differently. Since this is off topic, I'll stop debating it here. If you wish to contunue a rope trick debate, please start up a thread of that and I'll wander over. Though, I think the main point that i was trying to make (sloppy writing) was pretty much proven. 
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5 months ago ::
Jan 06, 2013 - 10:40AM
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I'd allow shields to work with TWD. But that's because I like the idea, not because it's in the rules. :P
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5 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 2:13PM
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Under attacks, the pregen human fighter has 'Shield +3; 1d4 + 2 bludgeoning damage' listed. With a Strength modifier of +2, the only way the shield attack could be made at +3 is if the fighter's level 1 Weapon Attack Bonus applies, which is only applicable to weapons with which the fighter has proficiency.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 11, 2013 - 3:33PM
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Under attacks, the pregen human fighter has 'Shield +3; 1d4 + 2 bludgeoning damage' listed. With a Strength modifier of +2, the only way the shield attack could be made at +3 is if the fighter's level 1 Weapon Attack Bonus applies, which is only applicable to weapons with which the fighter has proficiency.
Well, they've made mistakes before in the pregens. Either they made a mistake there or the weapon chart AND the shield description.
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