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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 5:18PM
#211
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Dwarf, you are right that level drain, for example, makes a fairly memorable fight. Of course, memorable doesn't really mean fun. For example, I college, I got invited to a 2e game, where I was given a barbarian, who looked pretty straightforward - worse AC than the paladin, but more hp. Which lasted until we ran into some wights(?) who level drained me till I was useless (eventually his rage caused him to foolishly attack something too strong for him and die honorably.). When, later, I asked the dm what I had done wrong, he pointed out that successful parties had the wizard deal with the wights with spells. Which was the last time i played 2e.
Now, of course, the dm could have been better. And, had I played more, I might have gotten over the fact that when I played my character as designed, I was destroyed immediately because I didn wait on the wizard. But, that doesn't change my point - I never played 2e again because that kind of monster isn't my thing. If you want to kill me, and the dice end up that way, ill take it and create a death scene worthy of my char. But level drain me so that everyone is level 10 while I'm level 3, so I can't play the next session? That's unheroic, and just asking me to hate your game.
So, to each their own, and I hope you get monsters you don find dull. But as for me and mine? No permanent draining.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 5:44PM
#212
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Dwarf, you are right that level drain, for example, makes a fairly memorable fight. Of course, memorable doesn't really mean fun. For example, I college, I got invited to a 2e game, where I was given a barbarian, who looked pretty straightforward - worse AC than the paladin, but more hp. Which lasted until we ran into some wights(?) who level drained me till I was useless (eventually his rage caused him to foolishly attack something too strong for him and die honorably.). When, later, I asked the dm what I had done wrong, he pointed out that successful parties had the wizard deal with the wights with spells. Which was the last time i played 2e.
Now, of course, the dm could have been better. And, had I played more, I might have gotten over the fact that when I played my character as designed, I was destroyed immediately because I didn wait on the wizard. But, that doesn't change my point - I never played 2e again because that kind of monster isn't my thing. If you want to kill me, and the dice end up that way, ill take it and create a death scene worthy of my char. But level drain me so that everyone is level 10 while I'm level 3, so I can't play the next session? That's unheroic, and just asking me to hate your game.
So, to each their own, and I hope you get monsters you don find dull. But as for me and mine? No permanent draining.
Level drained till level 3? Major restoration and poof- back to level 10 again. However I see how your experiences shaped your opinions of the game. Experience shapes perspective. Can't fault you there.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 7:06PM
#213
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Apr 15, 2001
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Still not a goot mechanic ofr parties lacking accress to restoration or are to low in level to cast it.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*
*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 7:14PM
#214
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Bright - honestly, as I said, it was my first time with 2e - if there was a poof spell, I didn't know it. As I said - I know I was inexperienced and the dm could have been Better - perhaps if he'd had a cleric restore me, I'd have played the game longer. And, I'm in no way representative, nor saying 2e was wrong - just that I don't prefer level drain.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 7:18PM
#215
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Date Joined:
Apr 15, 2001
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I like level drain just not as a permanent effect.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*
*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 8:06PM
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Bright - honestly, as I said, it was my first time with 2e - if there was a poof spell, I didn't know it. As I said - I know I was inexperienced and the dm could have been Better - perhaps if he'd had a cleric restore me, I'd have played the game longer. And, I'm in no way representative, nor saying 2e was wrong - just that I don't prefer level drain.
I think in 1e restoration was a very high level spell = as far as I could tell, it was meant to be a screw you, you might as well be dead mechanic. My first dm loved level drainers .... yuck.
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