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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:31PM #1
arnwolf666
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I think the biggest problem with dungeons and dragons is that they fired the literature people and hired mathematicians.  Modern rpg's are just way too crunchy.  Look at the supplements pre 3.x and you see very few new rules.  They are there and optional, but fewer.  They used to put out cool books like Cult of the Dragon, Scarelet Brotherhood, etc.  They were books that detailed settings and playstyle rather than crunch.  Just my humble opinion.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:33PM #2
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The math in D&D is widely regarded as some of the wonkiest, weakest math in all the land... mathematicians taking over would be a godsend.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:34PM #3
arnwolf666
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:33PM, mrpopstar wrote:

The math in D&D is widely regarded as some of the wonkiest, weakest math in all the land... mathematicians taking over would be a godsend.




Keep playing warcraft and everquest

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:35PM #4
Salla
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:33PM, mrpopstar wrote:

The math in D&D is widely regarded as some of the wonkiest, weakest math in all the land... mathematicians taking over would be a godsend.




Yeah, this.  Someone with a basic ability to compute probability would be nice ...

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:36PM #5
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because people realized that anyone can do fluff, but doing crunch was what took work and forthought. and anyone who has a custom home campain has no use whatsoever for alot of that fluff.

there are a great many people who buy games for and only for the crunch, they can transplant fluff from anywhere.

you get horrible mechanics when the people who make the game dont understand the math, you get spells that "sound good" but that are horriblely overpowered becuase the person writing did not understand that (for example) 1d6 per level was way to much.

Insulting someones grammar on a forum is like losing to someone in a drag race and saying they were cheating by having racing stripes.

Not only do the two things not relate to each other (the logic behind the person's position, and their grammar) but you sound like an idiot for saying it (and you should, because its really stupid )
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:36PM #6
arnwolf666
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the best DM I ever had couldn't calculate thAC0 without consulting a table.

 

Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:35PM, Salla wrote:

Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:33PM, mrpopstar wrote:

The math in D&D is widely regarded as some of the wonkiest, weakest math in all the land... mathematicians taking over would be a godsend.




Yeah, this.  Someone with a basic ability to compute probability would be nice ...




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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:36PM #7
Pashalik_Mons
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:34PM, arnwolf666 wrote:

Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:33PM, mrpopstar wrote:

The math in D&D is widely regarded as some of the wonkiest, weakest math in all the land... mathematicians taking over would be a godsend.




Keep playing warcraft and everquest



Yeah!  Get off his lawn!

Seriously, though, you should check out the PbP Haven.  You might also like Real Adventures, IF you're cool.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:38PM #8
arnwolf666
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Additionally the best roleplayers I have seen couldn't min/max a character.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:40PM #9
Salla
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:38PM, arnwolf666 wrote:

Additionally the best roleplayers I have seen couldn't min/max a character.




The plural of anecdote is not data.  Your personal experiences are just that, not the guideposts of the universe.

Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 8:41PM #10
arnwolf666
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:40PM, Salla wrote:

Dec 8, 2012 -- 8:38PM, arnwolf666 wrote:

Additionally the best roleplayers I have seen couldn't min/max a character.




The plural of anecdote is not data.  Your personal experiences are just that, not the guideposts of the universe.




And neither is your opinion 

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