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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:03PM
#171
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Date Joined:
Sep 26, 2001
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Classic class names in going for what a character did .. well they sounded goofy, gee look he uses magic... hes a "magic user" derrrrrrr.
Well, maybe that's what we should go back to:
Fighter!
WizardSorcererWarlockIllusionistMagic-User
RogueAssassinBackstabber
ClericDivine-User
WarlordLeader
BardTalker
DruidNature-user
RangerFighter/Nature-user
PaladinFighter/Divine-user
BarbarianRage-user
MonkKi-user
PsionPsychic-User
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:31PM
#172
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Date Joined:
Jun 24, 2005
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Class is just a name however its a name that probably should sync with npc impressions. No class breaks impressions like a Warlord. They are seen as any other fighter or warrior so I see Mike's point
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 11:32PM
#173
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Date Joined:
May 18, 2002
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Fighter.
That's right. Fighter.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 2:42AM
#174
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Date Joined:
Mar 26, 2007
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Dodgy, 3rd World, Militant Dictator!
It's a tad wordy, but gets the point across.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:14AM
#175
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Date Joined:
Jan 15, 2009
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Fighter.
That's right. Fighter.
The only person non-D&D folk call a fighter.. is somebody who boxes you know a sports figure, not a soldier.
Thats obviously a bad name for a class. If they mean knight they ought to call it a knight.
The fighter class name is utterly unevocative of fantasy combatants.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 8:01AM
#176
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Date Joined:
Jun 23, 2005
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Classic class names in going for what a character did .. well they sounded goofy, gee look he uses magic... hes a "magic user" derrrrrrr.
Well, maybe that's what we should go back to:
Fighting person
Studied Magic-User
Skillful Person
Holy Person
Magical Performer
Primal Magic-User
Psionicist
Nature-Warrior
Primal Warrior
Holy Warrior
Martial Artist
Innate Magic-User
Pact-Bound Magic-User
Commanding Warrior
Done.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 9:52AM
#177
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Date Joined:
Jan 15, 2009
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Classic class names in going for what a character did .. well they sounded goofy, gee look he uses magic... hes a "magic user" derrrrrrr.
Well, maybe that's what we should go back to:
Fighting person
Studied Magic-User
Skillful Person
Holy Person
Magical Performer
Primal Magic-User
Psionicist
Nature-Warrior
Primal Warrior
Holy Warrior
Martial Artist
Innate Magic-User
Pact-Bound Magic-User
Commanding Warrior
Done.
Psionicist does that describe what he does? and is that goofy enough.. been looking at this stuff too long. hmmmm Head banger might get confused with the bard.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 4:35PM
#178
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Date Joined:
Feb 13, 2012
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I suppose anyone could call themself a warlord, but someone doing so with only a handful of followers wouldn't likely be able to wage much of a 'war,' at least, not as it has been generally defined for a few thousand years now.
Pizarro conquered the Incan empire with less than 200 soldiers.
He had a technological edge, obviously, and the Incans had come off a horrible and ill-omened civil war and plague, but even so, they fielded 80,000 against him.
Jason sailed to Thessaly with 40 or 50 Argonauts, and his arrival was considered an act of war. But, then, the Argonauts were a "dream team" of legendary heroes.
Player characters are heroes, not realistic ones, but the larger-than-life heroes of fantasy and legend. A warlord with a handful of followers who happen to all be of such a calibre, they could easily 'make war' on a tribe of goblins at low level or just about anything at higher levels.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 9:42PM
#179
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Pizarro was also able to walk right in because of the presumption of the Incan King that he posed no threat, his muskets terrified the army and the horses allowed them to be far more mobile... plus they had steel armor and weapons, vs. wood, stone and bronze, AND Afro-Eurasian diseases.... and he still had 150+ men, a third of which was mounted.
Jason is a better case, but still, 40-50 argonauts + direct intercession by Hera (even a higher level cleric can't usually boast that sort of aid).
Etc.
I guess you could cherry-pick some other examples, Beowulf and some of the Celtic origin myths come to mind, but these are fairly exceptional. The meaning of 'warfare' has certainly changed substantially over time, but the small-scale, prestige-based warfare of some cultures (historical and contemporary) are not generally what people associate the term with in our society imho.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 9:48PM
#180
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Date Joined:
Jan 15, 2009
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The King Arthur has 100 knights on his round table but of them only a few are the hero knights that we know more than the name of these fated champions these are the Lancelots, Galahads, Gawaines and the Parsifals are less than or perhaps approaching a dozen. This movie creates a bridge between that heroic warlord arthur and the legendary king arthur. 
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