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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 2:55AM
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Ok. I know many people would want WotC to pull the casting systems into optional modules so that each player can choose the casting style for their favorite casting class.
So I'm calling for people to post in this thread if you would want WotC to separate out the casting mechanics from class.
Please don't discuss the pros and cons there are many threads for that. This thread is to get an idea of how many people could live with it and how many people would purchase the game if they made this change.
Vancian can remain default for Wizard as long as players can choose to swap Vancian out for another casting system such as Spell Points, AEDU, or Skill check. Same for Sorcerer and Warlock.
Please post if you are for this or against it...
Edit: Please post clearly one of these three at the top or bottom of your post on a separate line so it will be easy to count: For, undecided, against.
Feel free to explain why you are for or against, but please don't get into long discussions about it, there are several other threads for the dicussion part.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 3:17AM
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I am for this.
I have an answer for you, it may even be the truth.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 3:30AM
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Against
I'd trade it all for a little more!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 4:24AM
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Yes, I would prefer mechanics separated from class. I doubt it will happen, because WotC will want the game ready for play by young 'uns and noobies, and that's a little more advanced than a grab and go, first time character builder will want do. I guess it might be a fun way to build your caster? But it might be hard to do with the omnipresent onboarding consideration. I think if they can lick that issue, it would be my preference to have options for each class. I can live if that comes later though. I might actually even prefer the in a mega magic splat book so the context of each can be better evaluated and advised on. A PHB by necessity will be a flyover of the concepts.
My vote: It's not a dealbreak if they don't, but it would be cooler if they did separate them.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 4:29AM
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I vote for.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 4:38AM
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If you're suggesting that wizards, sorcerers and warlocks all be vancian by default, but all three classes have the option to use spell points or AEDU instead, then no.
Against. Strongly against.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 4:38AM
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I vote for.
Count me in as well.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 5:19AM
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Yes, I would prefer mechanics separated from class. I doubt it will happen, because WotC will want the game ready for play by young 'uns and noobies, and that's a little more advanced than a grab and go, first time character builder will want do. I guess it might be a fun way to build your caster? But it might be hard to do with the omnipresent onboarding consideration. I think if they can lick that issue, it would be my preference to have options for each class. I can live if that comes later though. I might actually even prefer the in a mega magic splat book so the context of each can be better evaluated and advised on. A PHB by necessity will be a flyover of the concepts.
This, minus the crossed out part is my attitude.
Imho giving three classes with three different casting styles in the corebook is enough of a compromise between pro and anti-vancian, and trying to make everything modular right there in the phb would make the game unwieldy for beginners and casuals.
However I do think that option for other casting styles should be presented in a soon to follow splatbook on magic.
So my vote is: Not in the corebook, Yes, in a splatbook.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 5:23AM
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Against, I'm afraid.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 18, 2012 - 5:29AM
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If you're suggesting that wizards, sorcerers and warlocks all be vancian by default, but all three classes have the option to use spell points or AEDU instead, then no.
Against. Strongly against.
No. He is suggesting something like: Wizard is Vancian by default. Sorcerer is Spell-Point by default. Warlock is AEDU by default. By with any of these (an the other) casting classes, there is the possibility of swapping the default casting mechanic by another, and this possibility is endorsed by the game rules (not just through houseruling). Like, a sidebar somewhere that states how you could do it, the benefits from doing it, and the problems someone might encounter.
And I'm completely in favor with this idea. I mean, I'll buy the game even if they don't implement it, but it would be super cool to actually create a character the way you like.
TL;DR: I am for this.
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