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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 4:56PM
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Considering the default setting, where the laws of physics are generally viewed as guidelines, and the correct answer to why is usually "A wizard did it." In such a setting, magic is obviously massively influential, and it doesn't make much sense for a warlord to be a wholly martial. A warlord would need to be a master of all of the various tactics available in war, as a fighter would be the master of personal combat. I therefore think that the Warlord should be a tactician who also has some arcane power. What say you?
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:04PM
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Nah. Nothing Arcane related. Instead, I'd want Warlords to keep the cool things they have now and pick up whatever they can from the shattered remains of the 4E Fighter.
Or, just fuse them with the ToB Warblade. Yeah, do that WotC.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:22PM
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Kings magic is almost an admixture of divine and blood-line sorcery... if you get my gist.
Though I can certainly put some magic in a Warlord it is the kind where Oaths can bring back the dead and your magic item only responds to those of your blood and you create brotherhoods whose unity grants them power... it might involve having Fated companions. It can certainly have focus devices that are ones Marks of Authority. It can involve influence of followers and those under your jurisdiction. It could involve your lands health being influenced by yours. Fate and Destiny manipulation maybe.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:28PM
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Nov 22, 2007
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I like Garthanos' take on this one.
I could get on board with this concept as a class.
For the record I had some major concerns with 4e but I am not opposed to a primarily martial character with supernatural powers.
This take on it would definitely help satisfy some of the 4e opposition and still keep much of the Warlord mechanically.
Brave Knights of W.T.F. Gryphon Helm Winner.
Edition wars kill players, this will kill Dungeons and Dragons.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:39PM
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4E Warlord should kill the 4E fighter and take his stuff, and be the default Martial class for people who like being on equal footing with the Wizards. Give him the ability to go totally leadership-based, totally combat-based, or a mixture of both.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:43PM
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May 27, 2012
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If your setting involves a lot of magic-users in it, then it makes perfect sense that a warlord would understand spellcasting and its tactical uses as well as she would understand martial combat. The warlord was never exactly a master of fighting, herself, though, so I wouldn't say that being able to cast spells would make a ton of sense there.
That aside, from what I've been hearing on these boards, it seems that a lot of the appeal of the warlord was that it wasn't a magician of some sort.
The metagame is not the game.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:45PM
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Considering the default setting, where the laws of physics are generally viewed as guidelines, and the correct answer to why is usually "A wizard did it." In such a setting, magic is obviously massively influential, and it doesn't make much sense for a warlord to be a wholly martial. A warlord would need to be a master of all of the various tactics available in war, as a fighter would be the master of personal combat. I therefore think that the Warlord should be a tactician who also has some arcane power. What say you?
Absolutely not.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 5:48PM
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But Garthanos did not suggest spells.
He suggested a bloodline inherent ability to produce the effects already attributed to the Warlord which will indeed satisfy me on how they do things that appear to be magical or supernatural in nature.
It is quite a neat little fix and if you are 4e fans you can just consider it the fluff and talk to your DM about changing the fluff.
Brave Knights of W.T.F. Gryphon Helm Winner.
Edition wars kill players, this will kill Dungeons and Dragons.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 6:21PM
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Well, it did sound pretty cool. But I object to the whole prospect of "power from the blood" to describe any class ouside of Sorcerers.
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12 months ago ::
Jul 07, 2012 - 6:25PM
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But Garthanos did not suggest spells. He suggested a bloodline inherent ability to produce the effects already attributed to the Warlord which will indeed satisfy me on how they do things that appear to be magical or supernatural in nature. It is quite a neat little fix and if you are 4e fans you can just consider it the fluff and talk to your DM about changing the fluff.
Sure but I do include rituals.. Oath binding and similar things do have a magical element in them.
In fact I frequently train my 4e Warlords as ritualists for this element I like the Comrades Succor ritual as the cut your palms and spit and so on blood brotherhood ritual ... I want a flavor of rituals targetting the Warlord perhaps like a bard has songs.
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