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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:48PM #4001
EnglishLanguage
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:46PM, stoloc wrote:

Folks fighting with Rules Lawyers and trolls are both excercises in futility.  

No matter which version has shown up in the random encounter generator it's best to just move along and ignore the pests. 



No rules lawyering involved. The spell says it works one way, he's arguing it doens't.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:48PM #4002
Seerow
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:47PM, EnglishLanguage wrote:

Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:45PM, Valdark wrote:

Allies is listed in the spell. If it were intended to effect the caster that word would not have appeared in any portion of the spell.



It was listed in the FLAVOR of the spell.

The FLAVOR.

IT'S ONLY IN THE FLAVOR OF THE SPELL
IT IS NOT IN THE MECHANICS

NOT IN THE MECHANICS




This should have been two posts later. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:49PM #4003
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I also noticed I've gotten the first post on the page on every page since page 395.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:52PM #4004
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:49PM, EnglishLanguage wrote:

I also noticed I've gotten the first post on the page on every page since page 395.




395? We just hit 101 :iiam:

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:53PM #4005
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:52PM, Seerow wrote:

Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:49PM, EnglishLanguage wrote:

I also noticed I've gotten the first post on the page on every page since page 395.




395? We just hit 101 :iiam:



401 in my browser.

Could be due to forum preference settings?

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:56PM #4006
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:48PM, greatfrito wrote:

Honestly.

I honestly don't understand this "debate".
At all.



It is classic RAW vs RAI with a twist because of the 4e Flavor text/effect seperation.

What is there to understand?

We have differing opinions.  We express them.  I get insulted. Repeat.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 9:59PM #4007
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Please remember to keep your comments positive, productive, and on topic. Remember we are trying to create a
mutually beneficial and productive community for everyone to take part in.


At the end of the day we are all in this thing together, and if we don't work together we will never get anywhere!


If you have any questions or would like to read the CoC you can find it here:


company.wizards.com/conduct


Remember, Keep it clean, Keep it nice, and of course Keep it fun!


Thank you for your understanding!

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 10:02PM #4008
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:56PM, Valdark wrote:

Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:48PM, greatfrito wrote:

Honestly.

I honestly don't understand this "debate".
At all.



It is classic RAW vs RAI with a twist because of the 4e Flavor text/effect seperation.

What is there to understand?

We have differing opinions.  We express them.  I get insulted. Repeat.



This is not a matter of opinion. You're disputing the mechanics of Shield of Faith based solely on the flavor text.

I'm making fun of your reading comprehension because the fact you're still arguing this shows your lack of.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 10:06PM #4009
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Jul 20, 2012 -- 10:02PM, EnglishLanguage wrote:

Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:56PM, Valdark wrote:

Jul 20, 2012 -- 9:48PM, greatfrito wrote:

Honestly.

I honestly don't understand this "debate".
At all.



It is classic RAW vs RAI with a twist because of the 4e Flavor text/effect seperation.

What is there to understand?

We have differing opinions.  We express them.  I get insulted. Repeat.



This is not a matter of opinion. You're disputing the mechanics of Shield of Faith based solely on the flavor text.

I'm making fun of your reading comprehension because the fact you're still arguing this shows your lack of.



Read the post you responded to here and you will see my answer to that included.

Let's just let this be and we can both call the hotline tomorrow to see how different the answers are that they give to each of us.

We'll call it an experiment and I will post whatever they tell me honestly and fully regardless of wheter they support my interpretation or yours.

Lets turn this into a gentalman's debate and stop attacking my character or understanding of DnD and it's precidence for how spells are written shall we?

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 20, 2012 - 10:07PM #4010
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Can we just go back in time and execute whatever person came up with 'Flavor'?  Every time I see someone talking about flavor I want to tell them it's Strawberries and Cream.
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