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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 2:08PM #1
Lwaxy
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So, the dwarf gets dwarf weapons, the elf does not get proficiency in elven weapons. I was fully expecting the elf to be proficient with shortbows at least. Sure, he can now fie magic missiles each round but still. There are situations where might not want or can't cast, and if the dwarf gets his weapons, why not the elf?

The fun of an elf wizard, to me, was mostly that he was also good in using a bow and disappearing into the trees. The pregen char is incomplete to me. I don't think I'm the only one to find that odd.

I hope this gets changed in later versions.
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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 2:12PM #2
TorianT
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How do you know that?
Since the dwarven weapn features are not listed on the charactewr sheets, there is no way of knowing, if elves have similar ones or not.
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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 2:29PM #3
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May 29, 2012 -- 2:08PM, Lwaxy wrote:

So, the dwarf gets dwarf weapons, the elf does not get proficiency in elven weapons.




I wouldn't worry about that. I'm sure they will be giving favored weapons to every race.

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13 months ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 11:21PM #4
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I think that you're asking the wrong question. It's not that Elves should be getting something with bows. It's that Dwarves shouldn't be getting anything with hammers. Racial weapon preferences are a terrible mechanic, and they should all go away.

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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 12:13AM #5
Lwaxy
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Come to think of it, Crimso_Concerto has a point. After all, a lot of elves and dwarves grow up in urban settings (depending on campaign of course).

But I like my wood elves with bows at least Laughing
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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 10:10AM #6
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And that is where a racial background could work for upping damage dice instead part of the race. Pick a Dwarven Militia background, or Elven Scout, or Halfling Rockskipping Champion, etc.
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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 3:08PM #7
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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 3:10PM #8
Haldrik
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May 29, 2012 -- 2:08PM, Lwaxy wrote:

So, the dwarf gets dwarf weapons, the elf does not get proficiency in elven weapons. I was fully expecting the elf to be proficient with shortbows at least. Sure, he can now fie magic missiles each round but still. There are situations where might not want or can't cast, and if the dwarf gets his weapons, why not the elf?

The fun of an elf wizard, to me, was mostly that he was also good in using a bow and disappearing into the trees. The pregen char is incomplete to me. I don't think I'm the only one to find that odd.

I hope this gets changed in later versions.




It seems like this “High Elf” is like the Eladrin, with +1 Int and more scholarly.

Probably the “Wood Elf” will get +1 Dex, plus the bow and sword proficiencies. (I hope its a longbow and a finesse sword.)

It seems like backgrounds are good way to handle this stuff tho, for characters that grow up in other cultures.

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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 3:23PM #9
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High Elf being like Eladrin makes me thing they will get bonuses with Longswords and can cast spells with them (although implements don't seem to be in this edition ATM). I'm good with that.

Wood elves get bows and scimitars (or some other finesse blade).

Wild elves get spears.
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13 months ago  ::  May 30, 2012 - 3:34PM #10
Haldrik
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May 30, 2012 -- 3:23PM, IxidorRS wrote:

High Elf being like Eladrin makes me thing they will get bonuses with Longswords and can cast spells with them (although implements don't seem to be in this edition ATM). I'm good with that.

Wood elves get bows and scimitars (or some other finesse blade).

Wild elves get spears.




High Elf (Int) - implements (wand, orb, staff, rod, book, etc.)
Wood Elf (Dex) - bows (probably longbow, since shortbow is more for horseback archery), whats a woodsy blade? Maybe just a hunting knife?
Wild Elf - spear definitely (Wis Druid? Str Hunter?)
Drow - crossbow (Cha Paladin/Sorcerer?)

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