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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 2:57PM
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I'm really unhappy with the direction things are taking. Next seems to fail to hold onto things that were good and added a bunch of things that were bad. It completely ignores a unified design concept and feels like a schlew of random elements tacked together.
I get that this is early in the life cycle, but all in all it does not catch my interest.
There are a few things I might snag for homeruling like Advantage/Disadvantage and Normalized attacks and defenses. I like a game that is mathmatically clean and designed with some elegance and simplicity. Neither of these things seem to currently be present.
All in all my network of players are pretty disappointed in what we're seeing.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 2:58PM
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As I've already elaborated in a few other threads, I'll just say that I totally agree.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:00PM
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To paraphrase a former president, we aren't going forward to the future, we're going past to the back.
But then, the whole point of 5e was to throw 4e under the bus and welcome back the grognards. Hopefully, the playtesting will fix this.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:01PM
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Though I don't completely agree, I do lean towards this perspective. I do like my look at the wizard... with at-wills and dailies it feels like a half step backwards, though with the martial classes it feels like a full step backwards to 3.5. Without changes I'd would just opt to play 3.5 with the many supplements that add in martial options vs playing a martial class in 5e.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:11PM
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Mar 31, 2010
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I just really wanted a system that was better, this seems to be backwards entirely. And the fact that classes are completely imbalanced infuriates me. The idea that you should be 'mundane' because you don't have magic is a bit preposterous.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:12PM
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So far, the Beta's coming out almost exactly as I was expecting it to. That's not a good thing for me.
I'm not getting high hopes unless the devs reveal some mods I agree with. Or, if they at least admit that the prototype thus far is "pre-modded" for grognards, and the true baseline game looks much different under the hood.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:14PM
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imo it is best not to compare it to 4e, they are so completely different i think they are just totally different games. at this time, 5e is a retro-clone. i do think 5e is a pretty good retro-clone though.
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:16PM
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To paraphrase a former president, we aren't going forward to the future, we're going past to the back.
But then, the whole point of 5e was to throw 4e under the bus and welcome back the grognards. Hopefully, the playtesting will fix this.
Actually that's not the whole point, and a lot of the things that the people who like 4e are wanting (I include myself in this camp) they've said are coming later on.
Don't write it off completely yet. Things will change.
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:17PM
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To paraphrase a former president, we aren't going forward to the future, we're going past to the back.
But then, the whole point of 5e was to throw 4e under the bus and welcome back the grognards. Hopefully, the playtesting will fix this.
Actually that's not the whole point, and a lot of the things that the people who like 4e are wanting (I include myself in this camp) they've said are coming later on.
Don't write it off completely yet. Things will change.
i believe you will fight for it mand!
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13 months ago ::
May 24, 2012 - 3:17PM
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Jun 17, 2010
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I will be and I have been. And they are listening.
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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