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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 12:11AM
#101
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You haven't met any evolutionists have you? (withdrawn your honor)
If all 3e/PF players are creationists, we are likely to be doomed. But since creationism is nonexistent here in Germany, I do not worry at all.
Also, lawyers in Germany are unable to withdraw anything they say in court. What was said has been said. So, sorry, no "erase" button. You may "edit" though.
If you are joking, this actually was very funny 
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 5:38AM
#102
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You haven't met any evolutionists have you? (withdrawn your honor)
If all 3e/PF players are creationists, we are likely to be doomed. But since creationism is nonexistent here in Germany, I do not worry at all.
Also, lawyers in Germany are unable to withdraw anything they say in court. What was said has been said. So, sorry, no "erase" button. You may "edit" though.
If you are joking, this actually was very funny
Someone made a comment about scientists not make unfounded theories and trotting them out as fact.
The theory of evolution as it currently stands has too many problems and flaws from a scientific perspective (go look up the problems with it). Scientists still espouse it as 'the way things happened'. Instead of doing their jobs and saying 'ok that doesn't work what if we changed this part to this?'. It was thrown out there as a kind of example, but mostly just sarcasm on my part.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 6:42AM
#103
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Someone made a comment about scientists not make unfounded theories and trotting them out as fact.
That one was me.
The theory of evolution as it currently stands has too many problems and flaws from a scientific perspective (go look up the problems with it). Scientists still espouse it as 'the way things happened'. Instead of doing their jobs and saying 'ok that doesn't work what if we changed this part to this?'. It was thrown out there as a kind of example, but mostly just sarcasm on my part.
So it was not a joke. Well then, this is the way I see it:
The theory of evolution as it stands in modern science today has been peer reviewed, tested and (most importantly) proven in many many ways (the immunities of bacteria to certain drugs, just to give one of many examples). Intelligent Design theories, on the other hand, are inconsistent and base their argument on non-scientific principles. This was especially made clear in the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial.
Over here in Germany, ID theories and non evolutionary thoughts are completely irrelevant in public discussion. I am only aware of them because I travel to the US on a regular basis. In Europe, they really are a non-issue, just as some other religious issues that seem to be of big importance in the US. Which does not mean that they could or should not be of importance in the US. Americans have to decide for themselves. Germans have tried to tell other countries how to live through the use of force in the past century twice and (thank goodness!) rightfully failed. So I am not telling you what to think or believe. Different continents, different countries, americans do not have to find german issues important and the other way around. We are free countries, after all. Free to think, like and believe what we think, like and believe.
But... real-life religion should not play a part in discussions on these boards. In fact I think they violate WotC's code of conduct.
So I do not think I should discuss this subject further. Sorry.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 7:16AM
#104
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Someone made a comment about scientists not make unfounded theories and trotting them out as fact.
That one was me.
The theory of evolution as it currently stands has too many problems and flaws from a scientific perspective (go look up the problems with it). Scientists still espouse it as 'the way things happened'. Instead of doing their jobs and saying 'ok that doesn't work what if we changed this part to this?'. It was thrown out there as a kind of example, but mostly just sarcasm on my part.
So it was not a joke. Well then, this is the way I see it:
The theory of evolution as it stands in modern science today has been peer reviewed, tested and (most importantly) proven in many many ways (the immunities of bacteria to certain drugs, just to give one of many examples). Intelligent Design theories, on the other hand, are inconsistent and base their argument on non-scientific principles. This was especially made clear in the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial.
Over here in Germany, ID theories and non evolutionary thoughts are completely irrelevant in public discussion. I am only aware of them because I travel to the US on a regular basis. In Europe, they really are a non-issue, just as some other religious issues that seem to be of big importance in the US. Which does not mean that they could or should not be of importance in the US. Americans have to decide for themselves. Germans have tried to tell other countries how to live through the use of force in the past century twice and (thank goodness!) rightfully failed. So I am not telling you what to think or believe. Different continents, different countries, americans do not have to find german issues important and the other way around. We are free countries, after all. Free to think, like and believe what we think, like and believe.
But... real-life religion should not play a part in discussions on these boards. In fact I think they violate WotC's code of conduct.
So I do not think I should discuss this subject further. Sorry.
We can't talk about the theory of evolution in here or we will get temp bans, but if you want to discuss it PM me. I'll point you to several scientific peer reviews that disagree.
You were asking for an example, I gave it. Scientists are no less fallable in their thinking than everyone else...
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 7:50AM
#105
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... seriously? Nevermind.
I sent you a PM...
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 9:55AM
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The brilliance about the theory of evolution was not the theory itself, but the way Darwin wrote it. He knew there were holes in his theories: huge, gaping, fly a space shuttle through holes. So he wrote those holes into the theory as things that will never be able to be proven or disproven. Personally, when it was all said and done, I don't even think Darwin bought into his own theory. That's all I got to say about that. 
Reflavoring: the change of flavor without changing any mechanical part of the game, no matter how small, in order to fit the mechanics to an otherwise unsupported concept.
Retexturing: the change of flavor (with at most minor mechanical adaptations) in order to effortlessly create support for a concept without inventing anything new.
Houseruling: the change, either minor or major, of the mechanics in order to better reflect a certain aspect of the game, including adapting the rules to fit an otherwise unsupported concept.
Homebrewing: the complete invention of something new that fits within the system in order to reflect an unsupported concept.
Default module =/= Core mechanic.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 3:56PM
#107
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As for people being 'happy with it as is' - there are two kinds of homebrew. One changes the system. One adds elements to it. Most of the homebrew that gets done is the latter - adding items, monsters, classes, spells, races, settings, scenarios, organizations, etc. Even if you're happy with the system as it is, that's no reason not to be doing the second kind of homebrew.
This is true, and I've done quite a bit of the latter (but then again I've also done more of the former than most 4e players I know of). Another possibility might be 4e just appealing to a narrower audience. I think that overall it is a better game than 3e, but that's not a universal opinion. More importantly, 3e had so many supplements, 3pp material, and spin-off d20 games, that the chances of being able to find something that fit your style, even if it wasn't 3e RAW, was pretty high.
On the other hand, 4e has not enjoyed a great deal of 3pp support and people seem to be a little more high strung when it comes to a company changing things that are considered basic design considerations (just look at the response some people had when Amethyst was published without divine magic, but then it was totally fine when WotC did the exact same thing with Dark Sun). So if you don't like what 4e has to offer, your options are pretty limited unless you go to another edition or another system.
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God of ownership and possession.
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1 year ago ::
May 04, 2012 - 5:33PM
#108
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It was Magic the Gathering that made Hasbro buy WotC. Magic exceeds the $100 million product category.
Pretty sure it was actually Pokémon and their little pocket monsters they were after. Magic just happened to be a good thing as well.
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