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Apr 28, 2012 -- 5:27AM, Uchawi wrote:

I dread a multitude of sub-systems, so hopefully they can develop a couple for each side of the the fence when considering martial versus casters. So martial classes may have maneuvers, stances, and heroic efforts, while casters have vancian, spontaneous casting, or something similar.

What I don't want is a new sub-system appearing each time a class is created from another module or rulebook. What I do want is a framework that defines an overall set of systems for each type of class, so we can maintain a sense of balance and expectations moving forward.  

Yeah, I think think the Warrior classes: Fighter, Ranger and Paladin could all use the same system for their martial maneuvers. The ranger and the paladin could use the same system as the cleric for their spell like maneuvers.

Although it wouldn't bother me if there was a different system for each class as it would give me more options to choose from when creating my own stuff.  

Apr 28, 2012 -- 8:19AM, Garthanos wrote:

You mean I can play the side-kick to the guy who wins the game with climactic amounts of awesome. Sign me up, I just think fading in to the background with repetitive base line impact that nobody notices.. is great.

Your lack of imagination is astounding. Did it ever occur to you that there might be version of D&D where everybody does something cool at every combat? (and no, that's not 4th edition).

Apr 28, 2012 -- 8:52AM, Gnarl wrote:

Did it ever occur to you that there might be version of D&D where everybody does something cool at every combat?

Sorry too busy  wondering whether I can convince the Druidzilla and his pet not to make Robin the boy wonder look silly as he fails his special moves time and again because he isnt a one trick pony..