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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 2:32PM
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Wouldn't call it that by a long shot...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 2:33PM
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That's the roots of D&D are in magical worlds of fantasy. Tolkien, Vance, Eddings. That's where to look for iconic fantasy characters.
I find it to be a bit offensive to suggest my D&D would ever be founded in crap fantasy as written by Tolkien.
Don't know how to break it to you, but this is exactly what happened. D&D even originally had hobbits.
You may have taken your personal campaign to all kinds of strange and wonderful places. But that doesn't change the inspiration and sources of D&D. And I can assure you, with a high degree of confidence, that it wasn't created with steam punk in mind.
D&D is a game of high fantasy. Just look at the first two campaign worlds.
More power to you for taking the system and running with it. That's the magic of being in your own household.
Inspiration is everchanging, always growing and shedding its skin. It is never static.
D&D strives to be new and fresh. Thus it does require new inspiration to enhance the old inspiration.
The old inspiration gets added to, not replaced.
the works of JRRT are still relevant to DnD and still inspire it.
That is why I said "enhance the old inspiration."
Reflavoring: the change of flavor without changing any mechanical part of the game, no matter how small, in order to fit the mechanics to an otherwise unsupported concept.
Retexturing: the change of flavor (with at most minor mechanical adaptations) in order to effortlessly create support for a concept without inventing anything new.
Houseruling: the change, either minor or major, of the mechanics in order to better reflect a certain aspect of the game, including adapting the rules to fit an otherwise unsupported concept.
Homebrewing: the complete invention of something new that fits within the system in order to reflect an unsupported concept.
Default module =/= Core mechanic.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 2:35PM
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Wow, I just created the most revolutionary design for 5E and not a single comment...
I was actually going to, lok.
I kinda agree with Leich that it isn't exactly a long shot, but....its still an approach that should be taken. In prior editions, you could change your primary stat with a feat. But, why bother with the feat to begin with? Why not just let you choose how you want to be badass?
That said...I don't think that I've agreed with anything you have ever said. In fact, when I saw your user name, I said, "Oh God." Color me surprised when I read something that I actually like.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 2:38PM
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That said...I don't think that I've agreed with anything you have ever said. In fact, when I saw your user name, I said, "Oh God." Color me surprised when I read something that I actually like.
Pretty much that. Any details about this idea? Or is it just a rough idea so far?
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 2:59PM
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That said...I don't think that I've agreed with anything you have ever said. In fact, when I saw your user name, I said, "Oh God." Color me surprised when I read something that I actually like.
Pretty much that. Any details about this idea? Or is it just a rough idea so far?
Uh yeah, its pretty fleshed out. When you create your character you pick your primary and secondary skill for your class. The primary is used by most if not all of your powers for attack rolls, and the secondary would be used for damage and/or secondary effects. This way you can create the crafty fighter, the charismatic wizard, the enduring cleric, or whatever combination you wanted and you wouldn't have to give up your social or action skills in order to be effective at your class.
I mean we've had enough dumb fighters and weak wizards to last a lifetime. I really hope they stick to the everyone gets meaningful choices at each level and the wizard doesn't get 50 spells while the fighter get 3 attacks...
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 3:08PM
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Wow, I just created the most revolutionary design for 5E and not a single comment...
While, I appreciate the compliment, you misattributed the idea. I wrote an article proposing that idea last August. It even has a neato graphic.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 3:22PM
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Yeah, Loki, don't you know that you are supposed to read everything that Wrecan has blogged before coming up with your own ideas, let alone posting them?
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Reflavoring: the change of flavor without changing any mechanical part of the game, no matter how small, in order to fit the mechanics to an otherwise unsupported concept.
Retexturing: the change of flavor (with at most minor mechanical adaptations) in order to effortlessly create support for a concept without inventing anything new.
Houseruling: the change, either minor or major, of the mechanics in order to better reflect a certain aspect of the game, including adapting the rules to fit an otherwise unsupported concept.
Homebrewing: the complete invention of something new that fits within the system in order to reflect an unsupported concept.
Default module =/= Core mechanic.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 3:25PM
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I'm not sure where you are getting Aramis as an example. While he is an iconic character, he isn't an iconic fantasy character.
Are you kidding me? he's not historical in any way. His adventures, even in the Dumas stories are adventure classics. It just doesn't have magic.
But if we want to go to the roots of D&D, we have to go to the horse's mouth. Mr Gary Gygax listed the inspirations for D&D in his famous Appendix N to the first DMG. Among the characters in the works listed there are the following charismatic warriors:
Holger Carlson of Poul Anderson's Three Hearts and Three Lions, a leader of men, the original Ogier the Dane, who with no mysitc powers beats back the evil fey.
Martin Padway of Sprague DeCamp's Lest Darkness Fall, an archaelogist transported to ancient Rome, who, with no magic, becomes the Emperor and prevents the Dark Ages.
John Carter of Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars series (and the atrocious Disney movie)
Dorian Hawkmoon from Michael Moor**** Hawkmoon series.
And many more. The charaismatic fighting man is very much an icon of D&D's inspiration. And in 1e, since fighters really only needed Strength, and you rolled your stats, it was entirely prossible to have a charismatic fighter. Heck, since 1e didn't have a Charisma primary class (other than paladin), if you rolled a great Charisma and Strength was your second-beest ability, and you didnt' qualify for paladin (say, because of a low Wisdom), you may have little choice but to play a fighter who was more charismatic than he was strong.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 3:27PM
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Yeah, Loki, don't you know that you are supposed to read everything that Wrecan has blogged before coming up with your own ideas, let alone posting them?
Hey, he can post whatever he wants, but when he claims that it's "revolutionary design" he better check to see how revolutionary it really is.
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1 year ago ::
Apr 30, 2012 - 3:35PM
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Yeah, Loki, don't you know that you are supposed to read everything that Wrecan has blogged before coming up with your own ideas, let alone posting them?
Hey, he can post whatever he wants, but when he claims that it's "revolutionary design" he better check to see how revolutionary it really is.
Yeah, but where's your graphics for the rest of the classes. You know the DBZ strength wizard, and the Wise rogue that knows when to slink away and how to settle disputes (for a fee of course). The weak but nimble cleric... I'm sure there are more...
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