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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 5:28AM #21
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Mar 29, 2012 -- 12:33AM, Kishri wrote:

Someone is taking things way too seriously.

Besides, if a magic ring protects as good as armor does, then it would work just as fine in a dungeon as it does in a bath house.


I'm always up for attracting more yaoi fangirls, as long as someone remembers to tell the artists they need to start drawing the sorcerers as petite fem boys. Not everyone out there likes Conan the Barbarian types.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 6:29AM #22
Jim11735
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Poll was stupid.

I would have liked a poll on which of the final three pictures everyone wanted.




I'd vote for Photorealism. 

I don't need to see cleavage in every image of a woman.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 1:12PM #23
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chainmail bikinis are stupid
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 2:58PM #24
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Mar 29, 2012 -- 6:29AM, Jim11735 wrote:

Poll was stupid.

I would have liked a poll on which of the final three pictures everyone wanted.




I'd vote for Photorealism. 

I don't need to see cleavage in every image of a woman.




I'd have wanted an option for "all, based on the feel of the campaign". I like all three.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 4:14PM #25
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Mar 29, 2012 -- 5:28AM, 603 wrote:

Mar 29, 2012 -- 12:33AM, Kishri wrote:

Someone is taking things way too seriously.

Besides, if a magic ring protects as good as armor does, then it would work just as fine in a dungeon as it does in a bath house.


I'm always up for attracting more yaoi fangirls, as long as someone remembers to tell the artists they need to start drawing the sorcerers as petite fem boys. Not everyone out there likes Conan the Barbarian types.



Hmmm..why stop at just sorcerers?  There can be pretty boy warriors too.
We also have to be sure they include magical unisex dancing silks in the Magic Item Compendiums. Wink

On a more serious note, while my game is not as fetish ridden as some here wish it to be, I do include some themes that might be considered as being "Yaoi" in nature.  Laugh at me as you will, but I have never, ever had a problem with getting female gamers in my group and keeping them playing.  Currently, I have 3 ladies in my campaign, and in the past I ran a game for 6 ladies for a total of 3 years running.

Should D&D Next have art straight from a June/Yaoi Manga?  Probably not. 

It is the idea that everything must be the cliched medieval style societies, armors, cultures and dress codes that needs to be looked at.  To be sure, keep D&D Next at a "G" or "PG" rating.  Those of us who want more mature themes will add them on our own. 

But the fact is, a pretty boy wizard, an armored up warrior woman, or a loin cloth, bead and feather clad tribal protector should never be considered as "Fetish" material.  All three examples can be rendered at the "G" or "PG" ratings.   If a person finds such as being fetishist, the issue is within them and not the subject matter.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 5:21PM #26
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If dnd n 5e is rated E ( G for the movie folk)for everybody... I'm sticking with Pathfinder.

Pg to PG 13 please.....(T for the sets of people)
 
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 5:25PM #27
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I voted photorealism.

I'll love to see a Dragon's eye about B&W illustrations.  
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 5:27PM #28
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Mar 29, 2012 -- 5:21PM, sfdragon wrote:

If dnd n 5e is rated E ( G for the movie folk)for everybody... I'm sticking with Pathfinder.

Pg to PG 13 please.....(T for the sets of people)
 



Yes, the PG to PG 13 range would be my choice too.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 6:41PM #29
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Mar 29, 2012 -- 2:58PM, Kalnaur wrote:

Mar 29, 2012 -- 6:29AM, Jim11735 wrote:

Poll was stupid.

I would have liked a poll on which of the final three pictures everyone wanted.




I'd vote for Photorealism. 

I don't need to see cleavage in every image of a woman.




I'd have wanted an option for "all, based on the feel of the campaign". I like all three.




None of those pictures did it for me.  The manga one is too mahou shojo, the fantastic realism one too uninspired, and the photorealistic one is just too...eh, ugly.  But at least the last one has armor that looks like it could reasonably function as something better than cloth (not that there's anything wrong with that).  I'm a fan of manga style, just not that particular style (or at least, not going by this one sample piece).



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1 year ago  ::  Mar 29, 2012 - 7:30PM #30
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It was an OK article, but those three pictures really tick me off
The one labelled "manga' is... well what armor looks like in World of Warcraft, or almost every Fantasy game out there, D&D included.
The one labelled 'photorealism' is the same as fantasy realism, you just have poorly rendered plate armor with goofy pauldrons and skulls instead of a fetish suit. I don't want any of those. 
You could relabel those, from left to right "cleavage, smiling", "cleavage, frowning", and "no cleavage, frowning" and that's about as descriptive. 

All I want is quality of execution.


Here's some art I like:



Here we have a highly stylized charcter... with a very strong sense of volume to the design. You can tell what is cloth and what is hard armor and the straps are made with the care and detail of somebody who knows what actual armor looks like.
In many ways it has more 'photorealism' than say, Wayne England's designs where round people have flat slabs of armor glued to them.




Here's some space ork figures. Because they're inhuman the line between 'stylized' and 'realistic' is blurred, as they have inhuman anatomy to support their crude (in look, but stylish in execution) arms and armor. 


Here's some awesome Frank Frazetta

His colors are great and he has a really really really refined sense of anatomy, his heroes move with the grace of hunting cats. It's also quite highly stylized. Most people don't wear pants, but damn does he draw some fierce ass muscles.




This one's by Angus McBride. He actually does paintings for books on historic arms and armor, so he has a great sense of what's realistic and fits it fantastically into the fantasy.


Stuff by Yoshida


He's shown his versatility in various projects. Again a great sense of how things work which he commands in doing his fantastic designs.



I just like stuff that looks good. That's it. I enjoy good beef, good chicken, good pork and I will take a good eggplant over crappy chicken.
I dunno man, I'd just prefer a question with more substance than "how do you prefer your boobs, covered, smiling, or frowning?". I'll take any of them, as long as they're executed well. 

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