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1 year ago ::
Mar 06, 2012 - 6:59PM
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I adore Greyhawk. The Darlene map is a beautiful work of art. Perhaps half the campaigns I run are in Greyhawk. I've detailed 5,000 years of homebrew Greyhawk history. I've integrated every monster in the game in my homebrew Greyhawk. But the Greyhawk wizards should not be on generic PHB spell names. There is nothing evocative about a spell name, no matter how fancy dancy some designer tries to spruce it up. Give generic names that describe the effects. Anything else comes off as annoying. On an interesting note, the spell Tasha's hideous laghter was created and named for Tasha, a little girl who sent Gary Gygax a letter writen in crayon asking him for a sell that made people laugh. It was only waaaaay after the fact that "Tasha" got retconned as an alias of Iggwilv.
That is a cool story! What jerk retconned some cute little girl into a notorious witch?
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1 year ago ::
Mar 07, 2012 - 6:49AM
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ummmm leave them named with the mage who created it.
thye can always be said that they were a mage of no little power but of little importannce.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 07, 2012 - 7:10AM
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Keep the names!
Flavor and fluff make the game interesting and the materials fun to read even if I don't plan on using all of it.
As I have mentioned before, when I DM I have always crafted my own campaign worlds. I may change the names of spells or remove names all together but I like the fluff because it gives me ideas and sparks creativity.
I don't want a core rule book that is nothing but dry tables with no proper names, no gods and no background. Not fun. Give me a setting and let me tinker with it as I want (or toss out completely).
It is funny how different people are on their gaming style. When Kalnaur posted that he/she (sorry I forgot what gender you are) stopped reading the history of Melf after the first few sentences I had to laugh. I was exactly the opposite. I read every sentence in delight. If someone posts a purely mechanical description of an acid arrow spell I would barely glance at it except to make sure that I understood the basics of its mechanics. But, if you flavor the spell and maybe have elements of history and story attached to it, then I will read every word.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 07, 2012 - 9:23AM
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That is a cool story! What jerk retconned some cute little girl into a notorious witch?
That's not retroactive continuity; it's character development.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 07, 2012 - 2:29PM
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personally I'd rather they not have deities in the rule books.
it attaches the core books to a campaign and then we have but its in the core rule books.... you have to let me use this..... arguments
and it also gives us the shoehorned rules lore into other campaign settings like 4e did with the realms...
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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1 year ago ::
Mar 08, 2012 - 10:22AM
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Much worse is what happens with 4e gods: you're forced to put up with a mix of FR, GH and new gods, which do not fit any campaign -- often in a major way (i.e., it is not sufficient to change the names).
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This.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 08, 2012 - 12:48PM
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Much worse is what happens with 4e gods: you're forced to put up with a mix of FR, GH and new gods, which do not fit any campaign -- often in a major way (i.e., it is not sufficient to change the names).
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This.
Then I must be doing it wrong, because all the 4th ed gods are in my campaign, and even with a few of them renamed to fit the tone of the story, they do exactly what I expected them to. It works.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 08, 2012 - 10:46PM
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I am saying that they could be included as an option, but not as a default. Default assumes the "correct" direction.
In this particular case, given that the context itself is Dungeons and Dragons, I think the spell names that have been part of the lexicon of Dungeons and Dragons are the correct direction.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 08, 2012 - 11:04PM
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personally I'd rather they not have deities in the rule books.
it attaches the core books to a campaign and then we have but its in the core rule books.... you have to let me use this..... arguments
and it also gives us the shoehorned rules lore into other campaign settings like 4e did with the realms...
Totally agree.
Now I would like for the core books to have completely generic War god, Trickster god, Love god, Death god etc. to tie in appropriately flavorful clerical abilities.
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1 year ago ::
Mar 09, 2012 - 12:08AM
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Now I would like for the core books to have completely generic War god, Trickster god, Love god, Death god etc. to tie in appropriately flavorful clerical abilities.
Personally, I don't care about what gods they include... Just as long as they are explicit in that the ones listed are simply an example and that different setting may include different ones.
Playtest or get off the playtest boards.
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