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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:12AM #1
sjap
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Hi,

I've been playing since 1982: basic, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

Reading the books made me understand the Imperial system of measurement.

But why can't it be metric too? (next to the inpoerial measurements)

A new edition is an ideal opportunity to implement it.

Of course it shouldn't be an exact port, but an easy conversion could be done.

For instance: (bad example)  the square representing 5 feet translates to about 1,5 meters.. but that's a pain to constantly compute in multiples (if I want to be quick), instead it could rpresent 2 meters-(much easier to multiply/compute). it wouldn't change anything to game mechanics.


Just my two euro cents for the players who live in a metric world.


have at it!

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:14AM #2
Samrin
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Well, hopefully it won't be measured in anything but squares like 4e. That's all you needed to know. Didn't need to know feet, although technically 1 square = 5 feet. It never came up, because everything was just measured in squares.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:16AM #3
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Feb 16, 2012 -- 2:14AM, Samrin wrote:

Well, hopefully it won't be measured in anything but squares like 4e. That's all you needed to know. Didn't need to know feet, although technically 1 square = 5 feet. It never came up, because everything was just measured in squares.


Yes,
 but overland travel, for example, is measured in miles, and everything else too.
not just the grid/combat

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:27AM #4
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Feb 16, 2012 -- 2:14AM, Samrin wrote:

Well, hopefully it won't be measured in anything but squares like 4e. That's all you needed to know. Didn't need to know feet, although technically 1 square = 5 feet. It never came up, because everything was just measured in squares.




I hope not! That means the battle grid is mandatory!

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:32AM #5
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1 square = 1.5 meters = 5 feet. Pretty simple. For those of us (like me) that live in a metric world and want to use metrics, multiples of 1.5 are a pain, true, but it's either that or having bad rules for those using feet. [Edited]
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:35AM #6
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Feb 16, 2012 -- 2:27AM, Gnarl wrote:

Feb 16, 2012 -- 2:14AM, Samrin wrote:

Well, hopefully it won't be measured in anything but squares like 4e. That's all you needed to know. Didn't need to know feet, although technically 1 square = 5 feet. It never came up, because everything was just measured in squares.




I hope not! That means the battle grid is mandatory!


yes, no mandatory grid please!

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:41AM #7
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Feb 16, 2012 -- 2:12AM, sjap wrote:

Hi,

I've been playing since 1982: basic, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

Reading the books made me understand the Imperial system of measurement.

But why can't it be metric too? (next to the inpoerial measurements)

A new edition is an ideal opportunity to implement it.

Of course it shouldn't be an exact port, but an easy conversion could be done.

For instance: (bad example)  the square representing 5 feet translates to about 1,5 meters.. but that's a pain to constantly compute in multiples (if I want to be quick), instead it could rpresent 2 meters-(much easier to multiply/compute). it wouldn't change anything to game mechanics.


Just my two euro cents for the players who live in a metric world.


have at it!





Ideally the whole game would be converted to metric. [Edited]


Did you know that Canada officially uses the metric system? In Europe, we have 33cl cans of Coke. In Canada they have 355ml (12 ounce) cans of Coke. Canada is metric, sort of...


Translated to D&D, that would be:


Range*: 0.9144 meters per level


I think I’d rather have imperial. You get used to it after a while.


 


* 1 yard = 0.9144 meters

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 2:57AM #8
sjap
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* 1 yard = 0.9144 meters

Yes, that's why it should be an approximation.

1 yard could be 1 meter, there, no problem.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 3:56AM #9
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In translation, we sad europeans convert measurement with the axe, so 1 yard = 1 meter. It's technically incorrect, but the difference is minimal, so no problem arises. Except when they do not do that and we have things like teleport with incrment over 1,6 kilometers ò_ò. Having to measure distance with decimals is a pain.

The real offender though is volume measurement, since the difference between the two systems is more pronunced. Picturing a cubic feet is a bit complex if you are used to meters. The weight too is often an issue, expecially since in translation you can't really round it up like 5 feet/1.5 meter, so we have funny thing like equipment that weights 0,45 kilograms... Ugh!

At least a table of conversion at the end of the book with some advices on how to convert on the fly wound be a nice thought! 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 16, 2012 - 4:32AM #10
sjap
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Feb 16, 2012 -- 3:56AM, Leekanh wrote:

In translation, we sad europeans convert measurement with the axe, so 1 yard = 1 meter. It's technically incorrect, but the difference is minimal, so no problem arises. Except when they do not do that and we have things like teleport with incrment over 1,6 kilometers ò_ò. Having to measure distance with decimals is a pain.

The real offender though is volume measurement, since the difference between the two systems is more pronunced. Picturing a cubic feet is a bit complex if you are used to meters. The weight too is often an issue, expecially since in translation you can't really round it up like 5 feet/1.5 meter, so we have funny thing like equipment that weights 0,45 kilograms... Ugh!

At least a table of conversion at the end of the book with some advices on how to convert on the fly wound be a nice thought! 




yes, you're totally correct, (1lb could be rounded up to half kilo),
but cubic measurement can be a pain.
but like you suggest: a table of conversion (well thoghtout and easy to use please!) would be a great improvement!

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