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1 year ago ::
Feb 13, 2012 - 2:01PM
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Hey folks! As detailed in my blog, I want to redefine the word "thaco" in such a way that it can return to the D&D lexicon. I know that THAC0 as a mechanic id dead; but thaco, as a very cool word, belongs in the game. What would be a good use of the word thaco? Should it be the name given to total Melee Atack bonuses? The name of a feat that grants extra attacks? A small race of violent, drunken pixies? Have your say! Let's make this thing HAPPEN!
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1 year ago ::
Feb 13, 2012 - 2:08PM
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What you hear when someone with a hairlip orders Mexican food.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 13, 2012 - 3:52PM
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As I can't qutie see it fitting in as the name of a mechanic, and as a single feat or group of feats is too small, I'd vote for a new race, though maybe not violent, drunken pixies. Give them the major warrior culture (taking it away from the Dragonborn, give them one similar to dragons, just more socialable). They should also be somewhat quirky and a bit odd and backward in some aspects.
"I don't want to fight dragons." - Hiccup
If dragons are to be invovled, I much prefer to play as a dragon, dragon rider, dragonslayer-slayer, dragonfriend, or anything else *but* a dragonslayer.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 13, 2012 - 5:12PM
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A dreaded, epic-level monster. An abberation, to be sure.
Playtest or get off the playtest boards.
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Vindication for every suffering and hurt
Let retribution hold dominion over earth
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1 year ago ::
Feb 13, 2012 - 5:40PM
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You might do something like they did in Adventurer Conqueror King.
It's likely that the 5e system will look a lot like the 3e/4e system. AC starts at 10, goes up as you get armor, and the attacker gets an attack bonus.
In ACK, the attacker has an "attack throw" which he must meet or beat (essentially, the DC for him to attack an unarmored opponent). AC starts at 0, and is added to the attack throw before rolling. The attacker may also have some smaller bonuses to her roll, but mostly she advances by having her attack throw decrease.
The attack throw value is essentially THAC0. It is literally what must be rolled to hit an enemy with AC 0. It's just that, in this system, it starts at 11 rather than 20, and you add the enemy's armor rather than subtracting it.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 1:15AM
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This was one of the big things I insisted on when we wrote our version. I couldn't find a way to redefine it that made sense, so I finally juggled mechanics until it fit without abandoning the 3rd and up mechanics completely. For us, THAC0 is still 'to hit armor class zero', and in play it functions sort of like an attack DC already adjusted by BAB.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 7:47AM
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While it's not the intent, this post has inspired me to name the next one-off, warrior character I play THAC0.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 4:56PM
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Hey folks! As detailed in my blog, I want to redefine the word "thaco" in such a way that it can return to the D&D lexicon. I know that THAC0 as a mechanic id dead; but thaco, as a very cool word, belongs in the game.
What would be a good use of the word thaco? Should it be the name given to total Melee Atack bonuses? The name of a feat that grants extra attacks? A small race of violent, drunken pixies? Have your say! Let's make this thing HAPPEN!
Since it was a mechanic, it should still be refrenced as a mechanic. The "0" can't mean zero as there's no real AC 0 anymore but... It could still mean to hit. "What's your THAC0?" "I rolled a 17... is that enough?" Or a combination of to hit/damage.
"My THAC0 was total 24 for 7 points of damage."
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1 year ago ::
Feb 14, 2012 - 5:10PM
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Thaco: a Fighter in a PHB text example explaining combat. I don't know what I'd want to name Bab. If a new mechanic comes, it will have its own acronym, if any.
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1 year ago ::
Feb 15, 2012 - 3:41AM
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Since it was a mechanic, it should still be refrenced as a mechanic. The "0" can't mean zero as there's no real AC 0 anymore but... It could still mean to hit. "What's your THAC0?" "I rolled a 17... is that enough?" Or a combination of to hit/damage.
That's sort of where I'm at, too. Make it the word for total combat modifier, or something.
Thaco = Base attack bonus + weapon modifiers + ability modifiers + situational modifiers. Roll a d20, add your Thaco, and compare the total against the enemy's AC.
Yeah, I kind of like that.
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