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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 7:29AM #1
Kingreaper
Date Joined: Jun 3, 2010
Posts: 1,608
Which races do you want to be available from the start of DND Next? 


Feel free to list any you like, I'll add them to the list as they get votes.

Humans (38)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom
Yaeri, williamhm75, WhiteHarness, embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, Agathokles, Mr_Treegins, Crimson_Concerto
TheMormegil, Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, LordManshoon, wuzzifizit, Alzer, Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid
FallingIcicle, coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182, Azzy1974


Dwarves (37)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom
Yaeri, williamhm75, WhiteHarness, embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia,  Agathokles, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil
Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, LordManshoon, wuzzifizit, Alzer, Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle
coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182, Azzy1974


Elves (37)
Kingreaper,Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom
Yaeri, williamhm75, WhiteHarness, embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, Agathokles, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil
Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, LordManshoon, wuzzifizit, Alzer, Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle
coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182, Azzy1974


Halflings (36)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom, Yaeri, williamhm75, WhiteHarness, embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, Agathokles, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil
Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, LordManshoon, Alzer, Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle, coff
blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182, Azzy1974

Gnomes (31)
Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Troy007, Bringerofbroom, Yaeri, williamhm75, drowpriestess
Janx_14, Quindia, Agathokles, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, LordManshoon, wuzzifizit, Alzer
Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle, coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182
Azzy1974


Half-elves
 (31)
Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom, williamhm75
embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, Agathokles, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil, Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf
wuzzifizit, Alzer, Fibbs, HengeGuardian,   Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle, coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first
Azzy1974

Half-orcs (31)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Troy007, Bringerofbroom
williamhm75, embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, TheMormegil, Hippolyte, wrecan, PrestoTheElf, wuzzifizit
Fibbs, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, FallingIcicle, coff, blackpol, HL971, SuperPheemy, kill_the_wiz_first, Phoenix182
Azzy1974


Orcs(10)
iqwinn, Troy007, Yaeri, williamhm75, drowpriestess, Janx_14, TheMormegil, LordManshoon, Alzer, Zelkon

Eladrin (17)
Pashalik_Mons, silver_blaze, iqwinn, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, williamhm75, Salla, drowpriestess, Janx_14
Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil, LordManshoon, Alzer, HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid, Zelkon

Dragonborn (23)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, OhGMmyGM, greatfrito, Pheras, Bringerofbroom, williamhm75
embertiger, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Quindia, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, Hippolyte, LordManshoon, Alzer, HengeGuardian
Bold_or_Stupid, SuperPheemy, Zelkon


Tieflings (22)
Kingreaper, Pashalik_Mons, iqwinn, silver_blaze, CCS, greatfrito, Pheras, Bringerofbroom, williamhm75, drowpriestess
Janx_14, Quindia, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, Hippolyte, LordManshoon, Alzer, HengeGuardian, RPJesus, coff
SuperPheemy, Zelkon


Drow (12)
Troy007, williamhm75, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil, wuzzifizit, Alzer, greatfrito
HengeGuardian, Bold_or_Stupid


Shifters (7)
Kingreaper, iqwinn, Salla, Hippolyte, LordManshoon, greatfrito, Zelkon

Changelings (10)
Kingreaper, iqwinn, Salla, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, LordManshoon, Alzer, greatfrito, RPJesus, Zelkon

Goliaths (8)
Kingreaper, iqwinn, williamhm75, Crimson_Concerto, wuzzifizit, Alzer, SuperPheemy, Zelkon

Shadar-kai (3)
Kingreaper, iqwinn, williamhm75

Warforged(11)
iqwinn, Yaeri, Salla, Quindia, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, wuzzifizit, greatfrito, RPJesus, SuperPheemy
Zelkon


Deva (7)
williamhm75, drowpriestess, Janx_14, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, RPJesus, Zelkon

Minotaurs (3)
iqwinn, Salla, Crimson_Concerto

Centaurs (3)
iqwinn, Mr_Treegins, TheMormegil

Thri-kreen (5)
iqwinn, Crimson_Concerto, TheMormegil, greatfrito, RPJesus

Genasi (4)
iqwinn, Crimson_Concerto, Hippolyte, LordManshoon

Kobolds (4)
williamhm75, Alzer, HengeGuardian, Zelkon

Pixie (3)
Alzer, RPJesus, Zelkon
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Tuathan (1)
iqwinn

Githzerai (2)
iqwinn, RPJesus

Githyanki (1)
iqwinn 

Satyrs
iqwinn

Bugbear (1)
Troy007 

Half-giant (2)
Troy007, TheMormegil

Bugbear (1)
Troy007

Goblin (1)
Troy007 



Gnolls
Salla, Zelkon

Hengoyokai
Salla

Kalashtar (2)
Salla, greatfrito

Merfolk
Crimson_Concerto

Half-elemental
TheMormegil

Lycanthropes
TheMormegil

Undead 
TheMormegil

Outsiders 
TheMormegil

Treefolk
TheMormegil

Aasimar
Hippolyte

Troll 
Alzer

Ogre 
Alzer

Wilden
RPJesus

Bullywug
RPJesus

Shardmind
Zelkon

Revenant
Zelkon

 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 7:44AM #2
Pashalik_Mons
Date Joined: May 17, 2009
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As a baseline, I want the AD&D1e races in.  So, Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halfling, Gnome, Half-Orc and Half-Elf.

I'd also like to see Tieflings, Eladrin and Dragonborn make a comeback. 
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 8:30AM #3
iqwinn
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2010
Posts: 995
"Normal" races:

Human
Dwarf (including duergar and muls)
Eladrin (including drow)
Elf
Half-elf
Halfling
Gnome
Half-orc
Orc (if half-orcs are allowed, why not full-blooded orcs?)
Shadar-Kai
Tuathan (come on, make'em a race)

Different races:

Genasi
Changling
Goliath
Githzerai
Githyanki (sauce for the goose)
Shifters, at least 3 varieties


Far-out races:

Minotaurs
Satyrs
Tieflings
Dragonborn
Thri-kreen
Warforged
Centaurs

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Not sure about these:

Hamadryads
Wilden
Shardmind
Vrolka
Shade
Revenant


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There's my $.02
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 10:53AM #4
Silver_Blaze
Date Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Posts: 1,341
I would like to see the following:

Human, Halfling (the true, hobbit-y ones, give Dragonlance back the Kender), Dwarf, Elf, Eladrin (perhaps fold them back into the Elf and make their abilities baseline modular), Half-elf, Gnome (make them the Rock Gnome again instead of the weird mini-Eladrin), Half-Orc, Dragonborn, and Tiefling.  Essentially, if it is in a PHB1, it should be in the PHB of DDN.  If people want to take something out, they can take it out themselves, the designers should accomodate ALL versions of D&D 1E-4E, just like they claimed they are going to.

So...
Human
Dwarf
Elf
Eladrin (maybe, could be folded into the elf, IMO)
Half-Elf
Halfling (hobbit-type, Kender belong in Dragonlance)
Gnome (Rock Gnome, please!)
Half-Orc
Dragonborn
Tiefling

Stuff like the Kender-esque halfling should be a modular thing included in Dragonlance, as should the Tinker Gnome, and the Minotaur.  Stuff like the Warforged, Changeling, and Kalashtar should be in the Eberron book.  Thri-kreen, Muls, and Half-Giants should be in Dark Sun.  Drow should be a modular version of the Elf (as should Eladrin, IMO), perhaps even in the monster book.  Sverfneblin could also be in there with them.  Derro too.  Perhaps all the dark versions of races could be in the MM or DMG, but I wouldn't mind seeing them as modular versions actually in the PHB.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 11:00AM #5
CCS
Date Joined: Nov 27, 2006
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Human
Elf
Dwarf
Halfling
Gnome
1/2 Elf
1/2 Orc
Dragonborn
Tiefling
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 11:19AM #6
OhGMmyGM
Date Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 90
Hello,

Under the idea of unifying DandD players, I'd vote for including all the races from the core edition books. If it has been in any PHB, then include it. For my part, they could morph some together like High Elves and Eladrin to keep the number down.

The ideal for me answer is in the core world would be  . . .

Humans

The most common species with enough advantages some one would want to play them.


Dwarves

Got to have them. It isn't core DandD without them.

Which isn't to say, every world needs them. I ran a DandD world that was African based, and there were no Dwarfs. Turns out they are canibals in African mythology. I replace them with Motia. The elves became souless imortals with a weakness to iron. There were no gnomes either, but there was a winged race of monkeys. So I had my anti Tolkien period too.


Elves

Yes, and eventually in all there various flavors from the core books.


Halflings

Yes.

Gnomes

Yes . . .But I'm not sure which niche they fill that Dwarfs and Halflings don't. They are a part of my home brew world, and I've come up with uses for them.

Half-elves

Yes . . .iconic now.


Half-orcs

Yes . . .iconic now. Once they were as heritical as Tieflings. Something to keep in mind as we debate changes. Yesterdays blasphamey is todays icon.

Eladrin (1)

Only if they are made High Elves. They certainly are very Fey like and magical. Should be good for any fantasy world.

Dragonborn

Yes . . I can see people have grown attached to this race. We need to admit they are cool. I would give them a different name, but they fit well enough.


Tieflings (2)

No . . This is a personal preference. Their race history is awefully specific. I think the core world needs to be an every world, which means it will be a bit generic If you can call a world with Elves, Dwarvs, and Dragon Born generic.

Talking about this with my son yesterday, he very easily included them in my home brew world. "Dad, just make them Drow and lop off the tail." This would work, as they are 'victims' of an ancient pact.



Shifters

No . . not in the core world.

Changelings


No . . personally not a fan of making monsters part of the core world. I can see where one might want them or any other race in a world, but not for the core universal world. Though really they would probably be a type of elf or fey. Hey, are you putting the White Wolf world in my D and D? Surprised Will we get to play vampires or wizards. Wait we do play wizard. (Joking)

Goliaths

No . . Good for a speciality world, but not the core world. I assume we are talking some type of giant.

Thank you for your efforts Kingreaper. I appreciate your posts.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 11:25AM #7
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"Races from Player's Handbooks" is a good place to start.

Human
Dwarf
Elf
Eladrin
Half-Elf
Halfling
Gnome
Half-Orc
Dragonborn
Tiefling
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 11:59AM #8
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To start with in the PHB1, I'd use the following:

Humans
Elves
Eladrin (I'm a fan of keeping the split in what was defined as "elf" in earlier editions)
Dwarves
Halflings
Dragonborn
Tieflings
Half-elves
Half-orcs

I'd like the D&D Next Monster Manual to also contain a section like in the 4E MM that gives basic rules for playing humanoid monsters as characters.  In that they should include:

Orcs
Hobgoblins
Goblins
Doppelgangers/Changlings
Warforged
Deva
Shifters
Goliaths
Bugbears
Drow
Githyanki
Githzerai
Gnoll
Gnome
Kobold
Minotaur
Shadar-Kai
Kenku

The PHB1 races should be fairly comprehensive and give us more than 1 splatpage for each.  Give us culture and attitudes without necessarily giving us too much specific campaign stuff.  The MM should be reorganized to not just be alphabetical, but organized around humanoid encounters vs. wilderness/wild/magical monsters.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 12:00PM #9
Troy007
Date Joined: Feb 11, 2012
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Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halfling, Gnome, Half-Orc, Half-Elf, Drow, Half-Giant, Orc, Bugbear, Goblin 

I'm a fan of players able to play 'dark' races and 'monster' races and I think most players expect those two options.  Therefore the first list of player-character races should include a few of the most classic of DnD 'monster' races.     (Classic races: Against the Giants, for example)   

In this fashion the rules address a very common player request and would suggest how to handle it story wise/world flavor.   
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 12:23PM #10
bringerofbroom
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Humans ( With some options for variation )
Elf ( With options for variation to include Eladrin as High Elves )
Dwarf
Halfling
Gnome
Half Elf ( or an option for a race to have 'Elf Blood' as a theme ),
Half Orc ( or an option for a race to have 'Orc Blood' as a theme )
Dragonborn
Teiflings as a Human subtype ( possibly a 'Fiendish Blood' theme ).

Oh, and plenty of options in the DMs book and/or monster book to support playing pretty much anything in the monster books with Sentience ( Yes, i know its a bad definition, but you know what i mean).
  
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