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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 3:18AM #1
klaymen_sk
Date Joined: Jan 6, 2012
Posts: 5
Hello everybody,

I'd like to ask you if someone of you knows what WotC's plan to support 4th ED actually means. Whether it means more books coming out or just a promise "we won't pull the plug on DDI for 4th ED and we may release occasional errata".

Now, I'd like to explain something. I'd like to introduce DnD to my gaming group, who are all boardgamers and while I haven't played DnD before, I have played some tabletom RPGs. Despite being hated for it (or to put it better - one of reasons for hate it got), the fact that it too much resembles a boardgame makes it a feasible candidate for my group - it won't deviate much from boardgaming and it will provide a gate to RPGs.

Sure, I may wait for the next edition and it may or may not be better than 4th ED in this regard, but there is the financial situation. Getting both editions may not be feasible for me. Therefore I'd like to ask what this support probably means. I know that current edition is fully playable, but the possibility of more additional content may make it more appealing.

Thank you in advance.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance" - Ahzek Ahriman
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 3:51AM #2
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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theres a lot of great looking 4e product slated for this year, and they have said that even when the new edition comes out they are leaving the 4e tools up. i am just going to trust them on this last part, and hope they do it
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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 4:04AM #3
Kalex_the_Omen
Date Joined: Apr 1, 2001
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Jan 12, 2012 -- 3:51AM, frothsof wrote:

theres a lot of great looking 4e product slated for this year, and they have said that even when the new edition comes out they are leaving the 4e tools up. i am just going to trust them on this last part, and hope they do it




Actually it does kind of make sense frothsof.  If you think about it, WotC knows some people just won't ever be on board with 5e for whatever reason.  If they keep the 4e DDi up and running they can still make money off of those people while hopefully bringing back some of the people they lost when 4e came out.  I think it has the potential to be a win/win situation for them if handled correctly.  They would (should) of course have to lower the price of 4e only DDi since there wouldn't be any new content developed for it through the magazines.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 4:13AM #4
Duskweaver
Date Joined: Jun 9, 2008
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Jan 12, 2012 -- 4:04AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

WotC knows some people just won't ever be on board with 5e for whatever reason.  If they keep the 4e DDi up and running they can still make money off of those people



Yep. "Some people" here includes me. For various reasons, I won't be buying into 5e in the forseeable future, but I'll happily keep my DDi subscription for as long as the online compendium, character builder and monster builder are 4e-compatible, even if there's no more new 4e material added. I'd be even happier if they reduced the subscription cost for people like me, but I actually consider what I'm currently paying to be pretty good value just for access to the tools, even without new material.

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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 4:19AM #5
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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Jan 12, 2012 -- 4:04AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

Jan 12, 2012 -- 3:51AM, frothsof wrote:

theres a lot of great looking 4e product slated for this year, and they have said that even when the new edition comes out they are leaving the 4e tools up. i am just going to trust them on this last part, and hope they do it




Actually it does kind of make sense frothsof.  If you think about it, WotC knows some people just won't ever be on board with 5e for whatever reason.  If they keep the 4e DDi up and running they can still make money off of those people while hopefully bringing back some of the people they lost when 4e came out.  I think it has the potential to be a win/win situation for them if handled correctly.  They would (should) of course have to lower the price of 4e only DDi since there wouldn't be any new content developed for it through the magazines.




i totally agree, and im not sure if they will make a 4e only ddi sub but its a good deal even without the mags.


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1 year ago  ::  Jan 12, 2012 - 6:30AM #6
mauss
Date Joined: Aug 27, 2009
Posts: 136

Jan 12, 2012 -- 4:04AM, Kalex_the_Omen wrote:

Jan 12, 2012 -- 3:51AM, frothsof wrote:

theres a lot of great looking 4e product slated for this year, and they have said that even when the new edition comes out they are leaving the 4e tools up. i am just going to trust them on this last part, and hope they do it




Actually it does kind of make sense frothsof.  If you think about it, WotC knows some people just won't ever be on board with 5e for whatever reason.  If they keep the 4e DDi up and running they can still make money off of those people while hopefully bringing back some of the people they lost when 4e came out.  I think it has the potential to be a win/win situation for them if handled correctly.  They would (should) of course have to lower the price of 4e only DDi since there wouldn't be any new content developed for it through the magazines.




My prediction is that they keep the DDI price the same, maybe raise it, and say that along with the soon to be coming 5e tools, you also get the DDI 4e tools. It's like getting 2 games for the price of 1!

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