New Posts For Thread: You could give the fighter the ability to insta-kill anything in melee and he would still be weak.

New Posts For Thread: You could give the fighter the ability to insta-kill anything in melee and he would still be weak.http://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.At least compared to the current version of the Wizard. Fact: When the other person can stop time, shoot lightning out of his ass, destroy whole armies from a mile away, and turn invisible it really doesn't matter what you can do to one person withinWell, that's not the D&D that I remember. We never excluded fighters from using magic. My 2e fighter had a ring of spell reflection, boots of flying, and a helm of teleportation. I had all kinds of fun.[/quote]That'll get you a Perseus - whohttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.?post_id=527895231#527895231Well, that's not the D&D that I remember. We never excluded fighters from using magic. My 2e fighter had a ring of spell reflection, boots of flying, and a helm of teleportation. I had all kinds of fun.[/quote]That'll get you a Perseus - whoWed, 09 Jan 2013 12:54:30 -0600You are misunderstanding the idea of opportunity cost. For the sake of argument let's say the ability to turn invisible is equally useful to a Wizard and a Fighter (I would argue that it's more useful for the Fighter because it helps them play to thehttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.?post_id=527849271#527849271You are misunderstanding the idea of opportunity cost. For the sake of argument let's say the ability to turn invisible is equally useful to a Wizard and a Fighter (I would argue that it's more useful for the Fighter because it helps them play to theMon, 07 Jan 2013 21:48:30 -0600Simple realism is a plague on DnD and should be purged. Wizards aren't realistic, bards aren't realistic, rogues aren't particularly realistic, barbarians/berserkers aren't realistic, why does fighter have to be realistic? Furthermore your argument whttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.?post_id=527848709#527848709Simple realism is a plague on DnD and should be purged. Wizards aren't realistic, bards aren't realistic, rogues aren't particularly realistic, barbarians/berserkers aren't realistic, why does fighter have to be realistic? Furthermore your argument wMon, 07 Jan 2013 21:23:11 -0600Wizards utility are the problem, because they are automatic effects.Spell create a unique opportunity, without having to be trained or experienced in the domain concerned, and then it provides an automatic success in top of the opportunity.A Knock sphttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.?post_id=527848009#527848009Wizards utility are the problem, because they are automatic effects.Spell create a unique opportunity, without having to be trained or experienced in the domain concerned, and then it provides an automatic success in top of the opportunity.A Knock spMon, 07 Jan 2013 20:33:38 -0600The basic premise in this thread, is more or less Fighters suck in the realm of utility magic, and flashy combat spells. Duh. The fundemental idea and goal of the class means it won't be good in those areas. That doesn't nessecarily mean there is imbhttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29616479/You_could_give_the_fighter_the_ability_to_insta-kill_anything_in_melee_and_he_would_still_be_weak.?post_id=527844195#527844195The basic premise in this thread, is more or less Fighters suck in the realm of utility magic, and flashy combat spells. Duh. The fundemental idea and goal of the class means it won't be good in those areas. That doesn't nessecarily mean there is imbMon, 07 Jan 2013 17:36:24 -0600