New Posts For Thread: Wizard vs Clerichttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_ClericI was helping my group update their character for the new rules and it caught my eye. clerics are over powered (i said so in the survey but i didn't notice how much)let us comparespell slots (same)hit points (cleric has more)Armour (cleric can wear aI want to put forth the point that the wizard's current strength comes not from their spell-list but their bonuses to spell-attack and imposed saving-throws. Even if you gave them the exact same spells, wizards spells will have 10% to 20% more frequehttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_Cleric?post_id=526631781#526631781I want to put forth the point that the wizard's current strength comes not from their spell-list but their bonuses to spell-attack and imposed saving-throws. Even if you gave them the exact same spells, wizards spells will have 10% to 20% more frequeWed, 05 Dec 2012 13:39:13 -0600The cleric and the wizard are about the same to me, for the reasons all ready put forward: power sometimes vs power all the time, etc.The cleric does win out for me in the current packet, but the changes suggested in the most recent L&L article (scalhttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_Cleric?post_id=526622459#526622459The cleric and the wizard are about the same to me, for the reasons all ready put forward: power sometimes vs power all the time, etc.The cleric does win out for me in the current packet, but the changes suggested in the most recent L&L article (scalWed, 05 Dec 2012 07:51:08 -0600Arithezoo captured it perfectly - the wizard, from what I can tell on the forums, is supposed to be the flexible class that can do anything. To balance that out, that flexibility has to come at a price of power. So, the cleric, who doesn't get as mhttp://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_Cleric?post_id=526620433#526620433Arithezoo captured it perfectly - the wizard, from what I can tell on the forums, is supposed to be the flexible class that can do anything. To balance that out, that flexibility has to come at a price of power. So, the cleric, who doesn't get as mWed, 05 Dec 2012 06:10:12 -0600Cleric ? Is it not this melee heal/buff bot who can make a crappy attacks when healing to make him feel not being the slave of his comrades ?Yes, cleric are a far more wonderful class than wizard !http://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_Cleric?post_id=526554835#526554835Cleric ? Is it not this melee heal/buff bot who can make a crappy attacks when healing to make him feel not being the slave of his comrades ?Yes, cleric are a far more wonderful class than wizard !Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:22:57 -0600Im doing another videoreview of the update and Lance of Faith as an atwill spell for a light god is cheesier than the D&D movies. No fan of Ray of Frost or any ranged atwill spell for wizards too.http://community.wizards.com/dndnext/go/thread/view/75882/29515049/Wizard_vs_Cleric?post_id=526549395#526549395Im doing another videoreview of the update and Lance of Faith as an atwill spell for a light god is cheesier than the D&D movies. No fan of Ray of Frost or any ranged atwill spell for wizards too.Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:46:53 -0600