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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 7:42AM #1
lystra
Date Joined: Sep 8, 2009
Posts: 45
Wizards of the Coast
This petition is to ask that you do not cancel the Virtual Table it is a great product and the only reason I have an Insider account, the other products you offer insiders, like the Compendium and the Character Builder are nice tools but I don't think they are worth a monthly fee, the Virtual Table is. I will be cancelling my Insider account on July 31st if the VT is taken off line.
All other Beta Participants:
If the only reason you have an Insider account is to use the VT please sign this petition and let Wizards of the Coast know that you will be cancelling your Insider account on July 31 if the VT is taken off line.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 7:46AM #2
Ellmo
Date Joined: Mar 14, 2012
Posts: 36
I will be canceling my subscription if the VT is taken offline.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 7:48AM #3
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
Posts: 10,486
ill put it this way, i will pay xtra for the vt

one things for certain though, i have no goodwill left for wizards. you guys are the worst. i cant believe how inept you are
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 8:01AM #4
sleypy
Date Joined: Jun 1, 2011
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I've already cancel mine. I have enough of the books anyway. I just can't believe they are pulling the 4e online resources while 5e is still in beta.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 9:36AM #5
Wotc_Josh
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2008
Posts: 484
Hey everyone,

I'm as sorry to see the VT go as the rest of you are.  In the end though, the decision was made to end our association with the VT.  While there is a very active user base, that user base is just not large enough to make up for the cost and effort of running the table.

However, GTO (the company that did the original programing of the table for us) has chosen to continue running it on their end.  I'm excited to see what direction they take the table, and think that you guys are in good hands going forward with this. 

You can see more info about this in a post made by Robert, GTO's vice-president, here: community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...

It's been a fun ride, and I'm excited to see where it goes from here!
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 9:44AM #6
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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will the ddi tools still work with it?
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:16AM #7
lystra
Date Joined: Sep 8, 2009
Posts: 45
I'd just like to thank you Josh for all the work you put into this. I really think you did an outstanding job. I've had some great times using the VT and I appreciate your efforts. I hope the GTO option works out but I would have prefered it if Wizards supported this project.
Unless I have to have an insider account to use the GTO table I still will be cancelling my Insider account on the 31st. I hope that this petition gets big enough to turn some heads and Wizards and maybe change some minds. I don't know if it is a vain hope but, still, there it is.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:22AM #8
Wotc_Josh
Date Joined: Aug 21, 2008
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Jul 10, 2012 -- 9:44AM, frothsof wrote:

will the ddi tools still work with it?




At this point, I don't have any information about what the VT will do after GTO takes it over.  It's certainly possible that it will in some fashion, though it may use imported files rather than the current direction connection.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:31AM #9
Mand12
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2010
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Jul 10, 2012 -- 9:36AM, Wotc_Josh wrote:

Hey everyone,

I'm as sorry to see the VT go as the rest of you are.  In the end though, the decision was made to end our association with the VT.  While there is a very active user base, that user base is just not large enough to make up for the cost and effort of running the table.

However, GTO (the company that did the original programing of the table for us) has chosen to continue running it on their end.  I'm excited to see what direction they take the table, and think that you guys are in good hands going forward with this. 

You can see more info about this in a post made by Robert, GTO's vice-president, here: community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...

It's been a fun ride, and I'm excited to see where it goes from here!



I don't mean for this to be a petulant question, but...

Why didn't you finish, release, and market the product before attempting to determine whether the user base is large enough?  I mean, you've had a year and a half of a functioning table, a full year with it in its current form, and nothing.  There could have been a push to have Wizards of the Coast's VT being the go-to place to play D&D on the internet, and you let it slip away.  As the publisher of D&D, you had an immense potential to turn your product into the bedrock platform for an expanding community.  To use another company as an example, look at Blizzard and the difference they made going from Warcraft 2 and Kali, a third-party internet gaming system that they didn't officially support, to Battle.net, a first-party internet gaming system that revolutionized how people play with each other.  Battle.net is largely what made Blizzard's current success.  It's not just because they put out a great game, which they did, but they also put out a great platform on which to play it in the modern era. 

To Josh in particular, I thank you for your time and involvement.  None of the above is meant to be directed toward you, but I would hope that it gets forwarded up the chain as feedback.  Hopefully not all is lost.  You guys still have that potential, present and untapped.  And I tell you this:  if you do create a true D&D online community, with a VT, player/DM-generated content sharing, and tools integration, you will be amazed at the awesomeness that results.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:37AM #10
frothsof
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2010
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Jul 10, 2012 -- 10:22AM, Wotc_Josh wrote:

Jul 10, 2012 -- 9:44AM, frothsof wrote:

will the ddi tools still work with it?




At this point, I don't have any information about what the VT will do after GTO takes it over.  It's certainly possible that it will in some fashion, though it may use imported files rather than the current direction connection.




hmm well thanks anyway. with no way to export tiles i wonder what the guy means by 'port your campaigns in'

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