what to do i do if players want to kill each other for their race.

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The DM wants to start a new campain, and one of the players race is so horribly ugly that my fellow adventures find it grounds to kill him. I'm trying to aviode this conflict, how can i do so?
The DM wants to start a new campain, and one of the players race is so horribly ugly that my fellow adventures find it grounds to kill him. I'm trying to aviode this conflict, how can i do so?

Talk to your fellow players and come up with in-game reasons why your characters have to get over their horror for at least a little while, during which the characters earch a grudging respect for one another. If you can't do that with your current character, make a character you can do it with.

If I have to ask the GM for it, then I don't want it.

The way to handle this is very, very simple.  No player can attack another unless everyone agrees to it.
The way to handle this is very, very simple.  No player can attack another unless everyone agrees to it.

I like this one too. It allows for cool, classic conflict between members of the same party, but it players out as agreed, rather than depending on the rules to make something cool out of a situation they're not designed for.

If I have to ask the GM for it, then I don't want it.

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The DM wants to start a new campain, and one of the players race is so horribly ugly that my fellow adventures find it grounds to kill him. I'm trying to aviode this conflict, how can i do so?


Talk to the player concerned, outside the game, about how he can stop violating Wheaton's Law or stop coming to the game.  Jerkish behaviour like that should not be acceptable and 'it's what my character would do' is not an acceptable answer. What his character would do is entirely up to him, and he can come up with something else that they would do.
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Pretty much what I was thinking.

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Settle it like men. Arena battle. Good looking pc wins, ugly pc needs to wear a permanent mask. Ugly pc wins, good looking pc gets a mean scar making him ugly. Maximus: "Are you not entertained??"

Pretty much what I was thinking.

As long as the players agree, that can work fine. In fact, if there's that much agreement, it's probably not even necessary to even play it out, and I recommend it not be because at some point in the combat the DM is going to have to make a ruling, and it will look like he's ruling for one player over another.

If I have to ask the GM for it, then I don't want it.

The DM wants to start a new campain, and one of the players race is so horribly ugly that my fellow adventures find it grounds to kill him. I'm trying to aviode this conflict, how can i do so?



I am at a loss as to why this would even happen.  It just does not make sense.  Ask the players why do their characters feel that ugliness is reason enough to kill.  Would they kill a human (or other "standard" race) with a 2CHA?  Or is it more racial hatred?  Is the race is question normally an enemy of the rest?  Even so, there are plenty of reasons to accept the PC in question.

 

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The cool thing is, you don't even NEED a reason to say yes.  Just stop looking for a reason to say no.

 Exactly what race are we talking about here? Is it a non-standard race that normally isn't a PC race?
I assume you're probably playing 3.5, or at least homebrewing some new race in 4E, since none of the available PC races in 4E (even the ones originally from the monster books) are all that unusual?

 I'm having trouble picturing what race this person's character might be that would cause that kind of reaction from the entire party...

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This is what Session Zero is for.

Don't just have everyone show up with full character sheets on the first day and everyone just then knows who their companions are going to be.
Allow all players to know what every other player is going to roll.

This could mean that some players might want to make adjustments to their PC in light of the new info, and issues like this can be dealt with before game day.

Assuming it's something like a Drow and a Dwarf in the party, two races known to be hostile to each other, it can even be an opportunity to explore as long as everyone involved is on board with making it work for the good of the fun. Heck, that bit of tension and jabs at each other could be entertaining. But this will require a bit of maturity and forethought to work with.

So, Session Zero. 

 Exactly what race are we talking about here? Is it a non-standard race that normally isn't a PC race?
I assume you're probably playing 3.5, or at least homebrewing some new race in 4E, since none of the available PC races in 4E (even the ones originally from the monster books) are all that unusual?

 I'm having trouble picturing what race this person's character might be that would cause that kind of reaction from the entire party...

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This is what Session Zero is for.

Don't just have everyone show up with full character sheets on the first day and everyone just then knows who their companions are going to be.
Allow all players to know what every other player is going to roll.

This could mean that some players might want to make adjustments to their PC in light of the new info, and issues like this can be dealt with before game day.

Assuming it's something like a Drow and a Dwarf in the party, two races known to be hostile to each other, it can even be an opportunity to explore as long as everyone involved is on board with making it work for the good of the fun. Heck, that bit of tension and jabs at each other could be entertaining. But this will require a bit of maturity and forethought to work with.

So, Session Zero. 

from what i understand, he is a home made, gaint golden human.
 
This is what Session Zero is for.

Don't just have everyone show up with full character sheets on the first day and everyone just then knows who their companions are going to be.
Allow all players to know what every other player is going to roll.

This could mean that some players might want to make adjustments to their PC in light of the new info, and issues like this can be dealt with before game day.

Assuming it's something like a Drow and a Dwarf in the party, two races known to be hostile to each other, it can even be an opportunity to explore as long as everyone involved is on board with making it work for the good of the fun. Heck, that bit of tension and jabs at each other could be entertaining. But this will require a bit of maturity and forethought to work with.

So, Session Zero. 

from what i understand, he is a home made, gaint golden human.
 
This is what Session Zero is for.

Don't just have everyone show up with full character sheets on the first day and everyone just then knows who their companions are going to be.
Allow all players to know what every other player is going to roll.

This could mean that some players might want to make adjustments to their PC in light of the new info, and issues like this can be dealt with before game day.

Assuming it's something like a Drow and a Dwarf in the party, two races known to be hostile to each other, it can even be an opportunity to explore as long as everyone involved is on board with making it work for the good of the fun. Heck, that bit of tension and jabs at each other could be entertaining. But this will require a bit of maturity and forethought to work with.

So, Session Zero. 

from what i understand, he is a home made, gaint golden human.
 
This is what Session Zero is for.

Don't just have everyone show up with full character sheets on the first day and everyone just then knows who their companions are going to be.
Allow all players to know what every other player is going to roll.

This could mean that some players might want to make adjustments to their PC in light of the new info, and issues like this can be dealt with before game day.

Assuming it's something like a Drow and a Dwarf in the party, two races known to be hostile to each other, it can even be an opportunity to explore as long as everyone involved is on board with making it work for the good of the fun. Heck, that bit of tension and jabs at each other could be entertaining. But this will require a bit of maturity and forethought to work with.

So, Session Zero. 

from what i understand, he is a home made, gaint golden human.
 
sorry for the multi quote and as i said hes a gaint golden human.
sorry for the multi quote and as i said hes a gaint golden human.

So he's a gaint golden human then?

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I'm getting kind of sick of him too, maybe he should die
Frankly the whole notion of killing someone because they are ugly is pathetic.

If the players are antagonistic, just wipe - get an angel of the beauty goddess who deems the rest of the surviving players too 'ugly' to live and kill them.

Then start gain at 'session zero' 

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If the players can't work it out then the DM has the right and the duty to force a solution, either telling multiple players that they have insufficient basis NOT to accomodate the character or that it is NOT an imposition upon the player in question to simply find some other character to play.

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I go with simple solution to a simple problem.
What? You want to attack this pc cause his butt is on his face?
Yes. It offends me.
Yo buttface, this Corellen luving tree hugging eladrin wants to kick your...face.
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Ok onwards to arena. Beauty vs the beast. Other pc's want to place bets?
This is so entertaining to me, that I would put my planned adventure aside and just roll with it. Lol
I go with simple solution to a simple problem. What? You want to attack this pc cause his butt is on his face? Yes. It offends me. Yo buttface, this Corellen luving tree hugging eladrin wants to kick your...face. What? I defend my honor! Ok onwards to arena. Beauty vs the beast. Other pc's want to place bets? This is so entertaining to me, that I would put my planned adventure aside and just roll with it. Lol


Which is fine unless you didn't show up with the only 4 hours you have in your schedule for playing D&D to watch two OTHER players have their PC's fight in an arena while you did nothing.  D&D is a GROUP exercise and lettting two players take over the table that way makes the DM as much of a heel as the players involved.  It is unnecessary and rude to other players who are there.

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seems more like a grab them by the ears and tell them to grow up situation to me
Which is fine unless you didn't show up with the only 4 hours you have in your schedule for playing D&D to watch two OTHER players have their PC's fight in an arena while you did nothing.  D&D is a GROUP exercise and lettting two players take over the table that way makes the DM as much of a heel as the players involved.  It is unnecessary and rude to other players who are there.



Agreed. Same reason I don't do one-on-one duels with a PC and NPC/monster either. It leaves an awful lot of people with little to do. Sometimes you can gin up some other things for the rest of the group to engage with, but I think it's just best to avoid these sorts of situations.

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