Multi-class BAB

They way I think it:


A Scout 6 has a BAB of +4


If they multi-class they start at the top of the new class's chart.

So a Scout 6/Scoundrel 4 would have a BAB of +7 (+4 Scout, +3 Scoundrel)


And a Scout 6/Scoundrel 5 would also have a BAB of +7 (+4 Scout, +3 Scoundrel)        


But a Scoundrel 11 or Scout 11 would have a BAB of +8


Am I correct? I think the online Excel tools just factor by 0.75 and ignore the return to Level 1 rule.


As clarification, taking a Prestige Class quite obviously starts a person at the top of the new chart, ex. Crime Lord 1 = +0 BAB.

Any help is appreciated.
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Everything you said is correct.

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You are correct about how it works.  I completely DISAGREE about changing it to +.75 each level however as that encourages far more "level dipping" to cherry pick talents from classes that you would otherwise need to give up a point of BAB to get access to.  I do NOT use online tools for creating my characters so I do not know how your program does it but I will say it is easier to program in a flat +.75 then it is to skip the +1 at 1st, 5th and other levels.

Yes, your Scout6/Scoundrel5 only has a +7 BAB while a Scout11 or Scoundrel11 would have a +8 BAB but you also have access to three talents from Scoundrel and three from Scout so I hope you chose well.  If you are so worried about losing BAB I could point out that if you were a Scout8/Scoundrel3 you would now have the same +8 BAB the single class character has; you have one more "Scout" talent and one fewer "Scoundrel" talent so you really need to weigh how important that third Scoundrel talent would be to you.

I will also mention that a number of talent trees from the base classes are available from PrC; some of those PrCs also happen to have a full BAB although getting into them may have meant giving up some BAB along the way.

Now before you think how great it is to use a +.75 instead of +3/4 levels consider the Scout1/Noble1/Scoundrel1/Soldier1/Jedi3/ForceAdept1.  By RAW that is a +4 BAB but it is also completely full of talents where treating the 3/4 classes as simply +.75 makes it a +7 BAB which means there was absolutely nothing to keep you from cherry picking the bonus starting feats and talents by multiclassing into all of those 3/4 BAB classes.
 
Thanks guys!

I'm making a tool to see what an NPC would look like at any level from 1 to 20 so that you could, in essence, adjust a CL as needed. I was checking my math against online Excel generators and noticed some discrepancies and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss a rules clarification or errata or something else that someone else might.

Thanks again.
Shane 
Thanks guys!

I'm making a tool to see what an NPC would look like at any level from 1 to 20 so that you could, in essence, adjust a CL as needed. I was checking my math against online Excel generators and noticed some discrepancies and just wanted to make sure I didn't miss a rules clarification or errata or something else that someone else might.

Thanks again.
Shane 

Which online generator are you using? If you're having problems, why not use Sagasheet?

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That's the one I was using. (Ilmion 1.4)

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One thing I will say for npc generators, despite the errors they all seem to have; they make creating npcs alot easier.  And as a GM, anything which makes my life easier deserves a few good words.  An error here or there isn't that big of a deal.  Just look at Threats of the Galaxy, despite the rampant errors in it's statblocks, they are still very usable though, especially in a pinch. 



I agree, but I want to know if the generator I'm creating is accurate or not, so I was spot checking and the Fort Def and BAB were different. My example was Chewbacca and I was typing in his book stats to check, but of course many stat blocks from the books are off, but I can see their errors in many cases.

I'm happy to be close, but I'd also like to be right.  ;)

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One thing I will say for npc generators, despite the errors they all seem to have; they make creating npcs alot easier.  And as a GM, anything which makes my life easier deserves a few good words.  An error here or there isn't that big of a deal.  Just look at Threats of the Galaxy, despite the rampant errors in it's statblocks, they are still very usable though, especially in a pinch. 

Thank you! Everyone else seems to hate TotG with a passion. I get a fair bit of mileage out of its statblocks.
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One thing I will say for npc generators, despite the errors they all seem to have; they make creating npcs alot easier.  And as a GM, anything which makes my life easier deserves a few good words.  An error here or there isn't that big of a deal.  Just look at Threats of the Galaxy, despite the rampant errors in it's statblocks, they are still very usable though, especially in a pinch. 

Thank you! Everyone else seems to hate TotG with a passion. I get a fair bit of mileage out of its statblocks.


I love TotG.  It's saved my arse so many times in sessions where I had little to no prep time.
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One thing I will say for npc generators, despite the errors they all seem to have; they make creating npcs alot easier.  And as a GM, anything which makes my life easier deserves a few good words.  An error here or there isn't that big of a deal.  Just look at Threats of the Galaxy, despite the rampant errors in it's statblocks, they are still very usable though, especially in a pinch. 

Thank you! Everyone else seems to hate TotG with a passion. I get a fair bit of mileage out of its statblocks.


I love TotG.  It's saved my arse so many times in sessions where I had little to no prep time.

Yep, me too. I also tend to use the Brute stats often in low level encounters.
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And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
One thing I will say for npc generators, despite the errors they all seem to have; they make creating npcs alot easier.  And as a GM, anything which makes my life easier deserves a few good words.  An error here or there isn't that big of a deal.  Just look at Threats of the Galaxy, despite the rampant errors in it's statblocks, they are still very usable though, especially in a pinch. 

Thank you! Everyone else seems to hate TotG with a passion. I get a fair bit of mileage out of its statblocks.


I love TotG.  It's saved my arse so many times in sessions where I had little to no prep time.

Yep, me too. I also tend to use the Brute stats often in low level encounters.



Agreed.  TotG may not be the most accurate, but it's still a good resource to have on hand.
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I'm also quite fond of its Beasts section. Creating Beasts is, well, sort of freeform, so it's nice to have a resource for them on hand.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
I'm also quite fond of its Beasts section. Creating Beasts is, well, sort of freeform, so it's nice to have a resource for them on hand.




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I love beasts. I try to use two-three encounters with beasts in at least every adventure.  They are so iconic, they kind of appear in ANH with that thing in the garbage shoot, the Wampa in ESB, the Rancor in RotJ, the Fishes in TPM, all that crap in the arena in AotC, and you had Obi on that thing in RotS.

Sometimes, when I'm in a mood to bend some rules as a GM, I let solo npc boss's make full attacks as standard actions, just like beasts  *evil laugh* 
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