My question is this: I've read the reviews of the 4e books ad I was a big fan of 1e and 3e realms books. Reading these reviews a lot of people seem upset by the changes to the setting and score the player's guide really low and the campaign guide a little higher but their seem to be a lot of bias because of the changes. Objectively speaking though, without the zomg they changed stuff reactions, as a stand alone, away from previous material, are the 4e realms products any good? I don't want comparisons to previous editions, just the books on their own. Do they present the world in a way that is payable and well presented. Pretend it's a new setting.