Robbed while playing D&D

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So here we are, playing the Slaying Stone. The players just bluffed their way passed the front gate and are on their way to the kobold slums, when there's a knock at the door. Friend gets up to answer it and then suddenly theres someone with a gun in the doorway and then 2 more dudes with guns. We bolted out the back window and got out with everything in the end, but I gotta say - most eventful D&D session I'll ever have. Anyone else have a similar experience??  Undecided

I want to give the guy that opened the door some awesome commendation item in-game because he tackled the guys trying to rob us. Ideas??

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what crime riddled ghetto is this place located? you may want to get him a lock for his door.
Lol a pretty ghetto area of Charleston SC. He has a lock, just didn't think those guys were there to rob him O.o

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Ive never been robbed while playing D&D, Used to have people show up lookin for smack, used to have this  blue porchlight, I thought it looked cool, but appreantly thats like some kinda druggie code or something.
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I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
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So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
When she meets CJ's mom?
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I'm glad to hear you and your friends are OK.

I'm sorry this happened to you.

Had this happened here (And I pray it never does!) it would have ended differently for the bad guys.

I simply will not see my family & friends terrorized by mindless booger-eaters who have no concept of sight picture, weapon retention, point shooting, failure drills, CQB or all the other things that take away the perceived power of their weapons.

Thankfully, the most intense gaming moment was when a player had a tantrum during a Marvel Superheroes Game & that player is no longer playing here. I won't tolerate that nonsense & I certainly wouldn't tolerate anyone threatening the safety of my home, my family & my friends.

Hope they catch those useless turds!

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You, bone naga, and ZB seem to have similar interests...
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I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
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So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
When she meets CJ's mom?
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Didn't read his intro, did you?

Cop, with the same sort of collection as BN.
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I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
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So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
When she meets CJ's mom?
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I've got to agree.  That's some long odds unless you're Josey Wales.
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Heh, the fact of the matter is that sometimes you just can't win.  As Dirty Harry said, 'a man's got to know his limitations'. 
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Reminds me of a neighbour my family member had while he was living in Texas and discussions he had with him. The neighbour owned quite a number of guns, including something from the M4 or M16 line. But being a responsible adult he kept it all locked in a safe, in case a kid got a hold of it or someone got too drunk. Which kinda renders moot the "I need guns to defend my home from robbers" point.

Just something to consider.
The reality of gun fighting is that even with a weapon pointed at you, in close quarters (0-3 feet) the person with the gun has to "react" to your "action"

Weapon retention, weapon stripping & shot avoidance seem like magic to someone who isn't trained & most bad guys simply aren't trained.

In close quarter disatnce, I would be actually more at ease with the bad guy having a gun than him having a blade.

It's SO easy to strip a firearm from someone and to move in such a way that even if the gun discharges, you won't get hit.

Blades are much more difficult to manage.

With two or more bad guys, it's far more likely that when you close distance, they will end up shooting each other.

All of this is revealed through Simmunition drills or even Airsoft with good trainers.

I highly recommend checking out Shivworks and the guys from Shivworks/Southnarc who put on some of the most incredibly dynamic training courses available today.

Some of their courses aren't restricted to just LE & Military but they are expensive and they tend to fill up fast.

You will probbaly get bruised up a bit but it's just invaluable training if you want to be completely comfortable with your weapons.

Dungeonmaster314

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Since the OP & his friends survived through the encounter, I certainly won't say they did a single thing wrong! Well done guys! Glad you're all still with us!





The problem with a home invasion situation is that most people don't wear their guns when they're in their homes.  Couple that with the fact that they're also most often sitting down (which creates its own set of problems when it comes to drawing your weapon and shooting it properly anyway) and you have a 'bad guy is in a lot better position than you' situation.  The honest truth of the matter is that your life depends on whether or not the baddy was planning to take it anyway.  If he was, you have nearly no chance at all.  His gun is out already - where's yours?  It's a lot faster to pull a trigger than it is to get up off your ass, find your gun, retrieve it and pull the trigger.  Quite simply, if he planned on shooting you and you move you're gonna get shot.  If he wasn't, though?  Well, you may have a shot.  That's actually why these kids were ok.  They probably didn't want to shoot in the first place.

It's easy to talk about what you would do.  It's not nearly as easy to think about how bad your situation would really be.  Unless your gun is always on you and you practice drawing it and firing constantly and in every potential position you may find yourself in, you're boned if they have a gun on you and were considering using it.  Seriously, most people I know - even ones who take defensive pistol classes - have never tried shooting while sitting in a chair let alone drawing quickly and doing so.  All of your advantages from what you've trained - speed, accuracy, disarming techniques, etc - are meaningless if you can't do it from a chair if that's where you find yourself when a baddy comes knockin'.  Think about it like this: You have a baddy in your home.  He's sitting in a chair and you have a gun on him.  He makes a quick move - either getting up or reaching into a pocket.  What would you do?  If your answer is 'shoot the ', why on earth would you think he'd act any differently toward you when it's you in the chair and him with the pistol?
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Shoulda kept a shotgun next to the door and blasted them.
*shrug*

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I personally don't want him decapitated.
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Shoulda kept a shotgun next to the door and blasted them.
*shrug*

draco's assertion concerning the existence of "responsible gun owners" is rapidly losing credibility.


Meh, if someone has balls enough to do a home invasion, then they have balls enough to get blasted.

Wish they would try that at my home...

I was referring more to the keeping-a-loaded-shotgun-lying-next-to-your-front-door bit.
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Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
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I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Shoulda kept a shotgun next to the door and blasted them.
*shrug*

draco's assertion concerning the existence of "responsible gun owners" is rapidly losing credibility.


Meh, if someone has balls enough to do a home invasion, then they have balls enough to get blasted.

Wish they would try that at my home...

I was referring more to the keeping-a-loaded-shotgun-lying-next-to-your-front-door bit.


My father kept a loaded .22 under my bed so he could shoot rodents what got into the garden. There was never a problem with it being there.

(My room had windows what looked out over the backyard and garden, that's why he kept the gun there)

Just 'cause it can turn out well, dosen't mean it will.

ZB, remember the Colonel's son?
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And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
the door is the first place they come in dont put a gun there, now what you should do. which is what I do, is, since you can't keep a gun on you in your house. ALWAYS KEEP A KNIFE ON YOU, now when that brigand kicks your door open you whip that sucker out and cut your hand WIDE OPEN, he dont want nona that ya dig? 
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So, now we're at two murders.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
The problem with a home invasion situation is that most people don't wear their guns when they're in their homes.  Couple that with the fact that they're also most often sitting down (which creates its own set of problems when it comes to drawing your weapon and shooting it properly anyway) and you have a 'bad guy is in a lot better position than you' situation.  The honest truth of the matter is that your life depends on whether or not the baddy was planning to take it anyway.  If he was, you have nearly no chance at all.  His gun is out already - where's yours?  It's a lot faster to pull a trigger than it is to get up off your ass, find your gun, retrieve it and pull the trigger.  Quite simply, if he planned on shooting you and you move you're gonna get shot.  If he wasn't, though?  Well, you may have a shot.  That's actually why these kids were ok.  They probably didn't want to shoot in the first place.

It's easy to talk about what you would do.  It's not nearly as easy to think about how bad your situation would really be.  Unless your gun is always on you and you practice drawing it and firing constantly and in every potential position you may find yourself in, you're boned if they have a gun on you and were considering using it.  Seriously, most people I know - even ones who take defensive pistol classes - have never tried shooting while sitting in a chair let alone drawing quickly and doing so.  All of your advantages from what you've trained - speed, accuracy, disarming techniques, etc - are meaningless if you can't do it from a chair if that's where you find yourself when a baddy comes knockin'.  Think about it like this: You have a baddy in your home.  He's sitting in a chair and you have a gun on him.  He makes a quick move - either getting up or reaching into a pocket.  What would you do?  If your answer is 'shoot the ', why on earth would you think he'd act any differently toward you when it's you in the chair and him with the pistol?

This is why I suggest the Shivworks/Southnarc training program. Their program and a few others like it, have you shooting from every position you can imagine. It's reality based & were it any more real, they'd be using live ammo & we know that's not a good idea.

Most shooting classes involve folks shooting from a standing position at stationary targets, usually in the form of silhouettes. Any hits within the preferred are (The whole silhouette) are considered passing.

Even Ohio Police qualifications were changed up recently. We still use silhouttes but that preferred area has been made much smaller in order to score a pass.

Each stage also has movement involved. (By the shooter.) A moderate improvement but I certainly am glad to see the demand for tighter groups. Under stress, you're just not gonna be as accurate as you were on the range.

Which is why I prefer "force on force" training using Simmuntion Training Rounds or at least Airsoft. This provides what is known as "stress inoculation"

One thing I know, if you remain sitting in your chair, if they have decided to kill you, then you will be likely be dead.

So I say move. Hard & fast and commit to the action. Attack or run away but MOVE. (Kudos to the OP & his friends for committing to their action!)

Does anyone remember where those two scumbags robbed that lady down in Georgia? These guys tried to rob this woman and they threatened to kill her 13 month old baby. Well things weren't going the way they wanted, (She didn't have any money on her.) so they shot her first, only grazing her ear. (Not sure how or even if she was moving.)
Well to make their point, one of them shot her baby dead in his stroller. 

During the Columbine incident, most of the people who survived being wounded were moving targets. (Running in the halls etc.) The ones that died were hiding under desks.

In Virgina Tech, they found several victims who had been shot through their hands as they covered their faces.

But you need to MOVE & keep moving!

Again, I'm not saying the OP and his friends did a single thing wrong. Getting out of the house is the best option for anyone who doesn't have the tools or training to deal with this situation.

One thing I did when I got ready for work was read this poem by G.K. Chesterton called, "The Last Hero"



The wind blew out from Bergen from the dawning to the day,
There was a wreck of trees and fall of towers a score of miles away,
And drifted like a livid leaf I go before its tide,
Spewed out of house and stable, beggared of flag and bride. 
The heavens are bowed about my head, shouting like seraph wars,
With rains that might put out the sun and clean the sky of stars,
Rains like the fall of ruined seas from secret worlds above,
The roaring of the rains of God none but the lonely love.
Feast in my hall, O foemen, and eat and drink and drain,
You never loved the sun in heaven as I have loved the rain.

The chance of battle changes -- so may all battle be; 
I stole my lady bride from them, they stole her back from me.
I rent her from her red-roofed hall, I rode and saw arise,
More lovely than the living flowers the hatred in her eyes.
She never loved me, never bent, never was less divine; 
The sunset never loved me, the wind was never mine.
Was it all nothing that she stood imperial in duresse?
Silence itself made softer with the sweeping of her dress.
O you who drain the cup of life, O you who wear the crown,
You never loved a woman's smile as I have loved her frown.


The wind blew out from Bergen to the dawning of the day,
They ride and run with fifty spears to break and bar my way,
I shall not die alone, alone, but kin to all the powers,
As merry as the ancient sun and fighting like the flowers.
How white their steel, how bright their eyes! I love each laughing knave,
Cry high and bid him welcome to the banquet of the brave.
Yea, I will bless them as they bend and love them where they lie,
When on their skulls the sword I swing falls shattering from the sky.
The hour when death is like a light and blood is like a rose, -- 
You never loved your friends, my friends, as I shall love my foes.


Know you what earth shall lose to-night, what rich uncounted loans,
What heavy gold of tales untold you bury with my bones?
My loves in deep dim meadows, my ships that rode at ease,
Ruffling the purple plumage of strange and secret seas.
To see this fair earth as it is to me alone was given,
The blow that breaks my brow to-night shall break the dome of heaven.
The skies I saw, the trees I saw after no eyes shall see,
To-night I die the death of God; the stars shall die with me;
One sound shall sunder all the spears and break the trumpet's breath: 
You never laughed in all your life as I shall laugh in death.



This poem is certainly fatalistic but to me it also expresses the warrior's acceptance of his purpose.  In no way is he going down easy. He's not giving up but he also knows that his endeavor is going to be his last.

These days, if someone sticks a gun in your face & demands your cash, you almost have to believe they're gonna kill you regardless.

I think anyone who has made the decision to be a soldier, a police officer or just carry/own a firearm for personal protection should first & foremost, train like your life depends on it because it does and they should prepare mentally for that day if it ever comes.

Read Dave Grossman's books "On Killing" and "On Combat" and also read Rory Miller's books, "Meditations on Violence: A Comparison of Martial Arts Training & Real World Violence", "Scaling Force: Dynamic Decision Making Under Threat of Violence" and "Facing Violence: Preparing for the Unexpected."

I've had the privelege of training and talking with both of these guys and let me say, they know their business.  Rory really gets in your face about the reality of fighting and the consequences after.

(Look at George Zimmerman's case which had the nation in an uproar after he shot an "unarmed" teenager.)

No one is unarmed if they have hands & feet and the will to kill you with them.

More people are permanently injured and killed with personal weapons (hands & feet) than firearms in this country.

Now as to the OP's scenario.

As I said before, it would have had a different outcome at my house. I won't discuss specific tools and tactics on here. It's not the place for it really. But I know what I can & can't do, what my wife can & can't do and I'm confident in our training & abilities.

I can't begin to imagine what a violation like this must feel like for the OP & his friends.

Your home is the one place where you need to feel safe & secure. The place where you can shut out all the ugliness of the world & just play some Dungeons & Dragons!

I've prepared myself & my family to the best of my ability. I have the tools I need and I have made my decision on how I would face this situation if it ever happened here. (Again, I fervently pray it never does.)

Dungeonmaster314



 





 
So, now we're at two murders.



That is incorrect. It could count as a suicide if the loss of blood was too great for the human following J2C's advice. Therefore the classifications of death are variable.
So, now we're at two murders.



That is incorrect. It could count as a suicide if the loss of blood was too great for the human following J2C's advice. Therefore the classifications of death are variable.

Touche.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
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I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)


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Gimmie your dice!!


gimme YOUR dice 



Whoa man, it was just a joke, chill!
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Gimmie your dice!!


gimme YOUR dice 



Glock, eh?  Good man.  ;)
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Gimmie your dice!!


gimme YOUR dice 



Glock, eh?  Good man.  ;)




19 the best a man can get
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Heh, I don't have a 19.  I have a 27 with a Lone Wolf conversion barrel sos I can shoot it in 9mm, too, and a 29.  Real men have 10mms. 
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Heh, I don't have a 19.  I have a 27 with a Lone Wolf conversion barrel sos I can shoot it in 9mm, too, and a 29.  Real men have 10mms. 


you know .40cal is actually a 10mm but shortened because female agents had trouble firing it?
Resident 1337 Speaker. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Four boxes protect our liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Use in that order.
you know .40cal is actually a 10mm but shortened because female agents had trouble firing it?



It wasn't just the females that had the trouble.  ;)  Jeff Cooper created 10mm for the FBI and they whined about it being too powerful.  They asked for a reduced power cartridge and S&W swooped in before anyone else with the .40 and the rest is history.  We always call .40 Smith and Wesson '.40 Short and Weak'.  ;)  You can actually buy 10mm today that is loaded with less power to mimic the .40.  They're called FBI loads.  Lame.  Why would you ever use those?  I mean, I have a 10mm cuz it's literally twice as powerful as a 9mm.  No need to make it all weak an' stuff, yanno?  Kinda like loading a .45 with anything smaller that 230 grains.  Defeats the purpose.

EDIT: And all this does is prove the FBI can't shoot.  I carry the smallest 10mm Glock makes and I can literall shoot it with a 2 fingered grip (thumb and index only) and do so very, very accurately at defensive pistol ranges.  If 10mm is too much for ya it's time to quit shootin'.
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Geez, guys, get a room.
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And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
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I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
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I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Now I feel bad for getting a Glock 22...
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I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
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When she meets CJ's mom?
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Now I feel bad for getting a Glock 22...



Ha-ha!  Look at the wimpy girly man with his wimpy man cartridge! 

Srsly, though.  There's no reason to feel bad, brah.  You own a Glock and that's all you need. 
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I'd probably go for a Glock if I ever picked up a gun for self-defense. Everything I've read about them (snd you'd be surprised at how interested I was in guns for someone who up until recently weas for banning everything but bolt-action rifles) says they're fantastic in more ways than one.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
They're basically the AK47 of the pistol world.  Loose tolerances and no extra crap to hang you up.  They'll eat anything you run in 'em and never have an issue.  They're also the easiest pistols to disassemble by quite a ways.  Simple, efficient, reliable - there's a reason that their slogan is simply 'Perfection'.  ;)
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They're basically the AK47 of the pistol world. 



You have to put up with a smelly Russian to get one?



Loose tolerances and no extra crap to hang you up.  They'll eat anything you run in 'em and never have an issue.  They're also the easiest pistols to disassemble by quite a ways.  Simple, efficient, reliable - there's a reason that their slogan is simply 'Perfection'.  ;)



Yeah, ease of disassembly is big for me.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
You have to put up with a smelly Russian to get one?



Most AK47s owned in the States are not Russian made.  In fact, if you can get a true Russian AK47 you're lookin' at big bucks in comparison.  My Russian SKS, for example, is worth more than the standard stuff you find here.  Better made. 



Yeah, ease of disassembly is big for me.



You can take the entire pistol apart with a ballpoint pen.  How's that for easy?    Seriously, I've taken the slide assemblies of both of mine apart more than once.  It's a job that takes minutes - disassemble, clean, reassemble.  If you wanna do that with an XD (also a fine gun)?  Send it to the factory. 
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