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I have a great desire to build an entire bear deck. There are 5 bears (20 creatures) plus Ashcoat Bear. There are things like Bearscape for extra fun! But there are no lands. Thus, I decided I needed to make a supporting land.

Bear Valley
Land
Spend mana produced by Bear Valley only on creatures with no abilities. 
: Add to your mana pool.
, reveal 1 Bear in your hand: Add to your mana pool. 

This is kind of a hilarious card.

Interestingly--and perhaps contrary to your original intent--it would make for a cool combo with Arazlam's ability counter cards. Cast a bunch of vanilla creatures, then upgrade them with ability counters!

I like it, but it definitely needs a drawback of some sort.

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This is kind of a hilarious card.

Interestingly--and perhaps contrary to your original intent--it would make for a cool combo with Arazlam's ability counter cards. Cast a bunch of vanilla creatures, then upgrade them with ability counters!

I like it, but it definitely needs a drawback of some sort.
 


Hey I found a post thats relatively sensical. I like the vanilla creatures. I don't think it needs a drawback, it needs bears and vanilla. Are vanillas really that powerful to worry about an extra ramp? 
Well it's just that (and I could be off base here) I'm pretty sure WotC doesn't create Basic Land Plus cards anymore, even if the added ability is pretty innocuous. It's not overpowered, but it's just a touch too good compared to basic lands. It's a design philosophy thing I think. Someone else can feel free to correct me. 
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Well it's just that (and I could be off base here) I'm pretty sure WotC doesn't create Basic Land Plus cards anymore, even if the added ability is pretty innocuous. It's not overpowered, but it's just a touch too good compared to basic lands. It's a design philosophy thing I think. Someone else can feel free to correct me. 


How is this a Basic Land Plus card? I'm pretty sure basic lands can spend their money on things other than vanilla creatures.
It's a basic land plus because it has a : add [color] mana to your mana pool along with another beneficial effect.

Edit: Of course we both (or at least I) missed that the "only spend on ability-less" apply for both the first effect and second.


Should I move that effect up-top or something? 
To be fair, it's also not "Basic Land Plus" because it's not a Forest, and all the things that come with being one.  Just pointing that out.
 

Yeah, sorry Kazu, I misread your card. I assumed the bottom line was part of the second ability rather than the whole card. Consider my comment retracted.

You might want to put that first, though. I think it would normally come first in templating to avoid these sorts of mistakes from particularly dense players like me.

Now that I know that's how the whole thing works I like it a lot better! I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something similar (albeit less limited in its creature type use) when we finally visit Muraganda.
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First off: I wasn't aware this was the discuss your private beliefs, ideas, and sexuality, instead of the card that a user posted to get feedback from the community. I'm pretty sure there are forums for that on the internet somewhere. Its extremely rude to hijack a thread, but even more so to take it off topic while doing so.

Second: I actually rather like this card. I do agree that the clause about how you can spend the mana should be first. Also, as an alternative to the reveal each time, I could see this being an enter the battlefield effect. Something like, "As ~ enters the battlefield, reveal a creature card from your hand with no abilities. If you don't, put ~ into your graveyard instead." Then just have it tap for . Either way, a neat idea.
There goes the fun.

Anyway, your land is too powerful. Actually I'm jk, but a dedicated bear deck could really beat face with this, and it lets you have extra mana for murganda ptroglyphs or giants growths and stuff. Maybe tap a bear instead? That way it's a little mroe balanced, and also more playable as you can drop that last bear in your hand.
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There goes the fun.

Anyway, your land is too powerful. Actually I'm jk, but a dedicated bear deck could really beat face with this, and it lets you have extra mana for murganda ptroglyphs or giants growths and stuff. Maybe tap a bear instead? That way it's a little mroe balanced, and also more playable as you can drop that last bear in your hand.


I thought you were going to stop posting when your posts got deleted?
There goes the fun.

Anyway, your land is too powerful. Actually I'm jk, but a dedicated bear deck could really beat face with this, and it lets you have extra mana for murganda ptroglyphs or giants growths and stuff. Maybe tap a bear instead? That way it's a little mroe balanced, and also more playable as you can drop that last bear in your hand.


I thought you were going to stop posting when your posts got deleted?

Dude, he's a libertarian from Texas. Lower your standards.
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I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
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There goes the fun.

Anyway, your land is too powerful. Actually I'm jk, but a dedicated bear deck could really beat face with this, and it lets you have extra mana for murganda ptroglyphs or giants growths and stuff. Maybe tap a bear instead? That way it's a little mroe balanced, and also more playable as you can drop that last bear in your hand.


I thought you were going to stop posting when your posts got deleted?

Dude, he's a libertarian from Texas. Lower your standards.



I'm a vegetarian neutralish leaning libertarian lesbian from texas!
Wow. We've always been at war with Eurasia, apparently. This thread sure got cleaned out.

I wonder what the point was of going to all that work.

@Chaos:

You really think this card could singlehandedly make vanilla bear decks viable?

I mean, you're probably a better player than I am, but I'm still a little skeptical. 
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this guy made me youtube arrested development trailer. and disappointed after finding out that it's not out yet.

The first three seasons ran from 2003-2005 and are on Netflix. It's only the fourth season that hasn't been released.

Go forth and watcheth, my brother!
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
There goes the fun.

Anyway, your land is too powerful. Actually I'm jk, but a dedicated bear deck could really beat face with this, and it lets you have extra mana for murganda ptroglyphs or giants growths and stuff. Maybe tap a bear instead? That way it's a little mroe balanced, and also more playable as you can drop that last bear in your hand.


I thought you were going to stop posting when your posts got deleted?

Dude, he's a libertarian from Texas. Lower your standards.



I'm a vegetarian neutralish leaning libertarian lesbian from texas!




George Bush uses the WizO forums?
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?
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Punctuation exists for a reason, and your neglect of the shift key is to the point where Social Services should be involved.
this guy made me youtube arrested development trailer. and disappointed after finding out that it's not out yet.

The first three seasons ran from 2003-2005 and are on Netflix. It's only the fourth season that hasn't been released.

Go forth and watcheth, my brother!

that's what i mean. how do you think i recognize it otherwise XD

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupry

[spoiler MLP]Congratulations, you've found My Lie Policy: Only when i'm prompted, i might lie. (policy still in the refinement process.) [/spoiler] [spoiler I am both rational and instinctive. I value self-knowledge and understanding of the world; my ultimate goal is self-improvement and improvement of the world around me. At best, I am focused and methodical; at worst, I am obsessive and amoral.]I am Blue/Green
I am Blue/Green

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this guy made me youtube arrested development trailer. and disappointed after finding out that it's not out yet.

The first three seasons ran from 2003-2005 and are on Netflix. It's only the fourth season that hasn't been released.

Go forth and watcheth, my brother!

that's what i mean. how do you think i recognize it otherwise XD



The 26th is going to be pretty epic. I can't wait dood!
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?

i dont know what to say ..... or if it's even offensive

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupry

[spoiler MLP]Congratulations, you've found My Lie Policy: Only when i'm prompted, i might lie. (policy still in the refinement process.) [/spoiler] [spoiler I am both rational and instinctive. I value self-knowledge and understanding of the world; my ultimate goal is self-improvement and improvement of the world around me. At best, I am focused and methodical; at worst, I am obsessive and amoral.]I am Blue/Green
I am Blue/Green

[/spoiler]
this guy made me youtube arrested development trailer. and disappointed after finding out that it's not out yet.

The first three seasons ran from 2003-2005 and are on Netflix. It's only the fourth season that hasn't been released.

Go forth and watcheth, my brother!

that's what i mean. how do you think i recognize it otherwise XD



The 26th is going to be pretty epic. I can't wait dood!

in the mean time i'm happy with modern family. that's how i got to that show in the first place. Not quite for the same audience but imo equally as awesome

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupry

[spoiler MLP]Congratulations, you've found My Lie Policy: Only when i'm prompted, i might lie. (policy still in the refinement process.) [/spoiler] [spoiler I am both rational and instinctive. I value self-knowledge and understanding of the world; my ultimate goal is self-improvement and improvement of the world around me. At best, I am focused and methodical; at worst, I am obsessive and amoral.]I am Blue/Green
I am Blue/Green

[/spoiler]
this guy made me youtube arrested development trailer. and disappointed after finding out that it's not out yet.

The first three seasons ran from 2003-2005 and are on Netflix. It's only the fourth season that hasn't been released.

Go forth and watcheth, my brother!

that's what i mean. how do you think i recognize it otherwise XD



The 26th is going to be pretty epic. I can't wait dood!

in the mean time i'm happy with modern family. that's how i got to that show in the first place. Not quite for the same audience but imo equally as awesome

Never seen it but I heard MF was good. Better Off Ted was good as well, shame it was cancelled.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?

i dont know what to say ..... or if it's even offensive

If she takes offense to it, I offer my most humble and abject apologies. It was not intended to give offense.
Two... Ah ah ah! Three.. Ah ah ah! Four... Ah ah ah! Six... Ah ah ah!!
88534793 wrote:
Punctuation exists for a reason, and your neglect of the shift key is to the point where Social Services should be involved.
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?

i dont know what to say ..... or if it's even offensive

If she takes offense to it, I offer my most humble and abject apologies. It was not intended to give offense.



I thought it was cute. Barely.
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?

i dont know what to say ..... or if it's even offensive

If she takes offense to it, I offer my most humble and abject apologies. It was not intended to give offense.



I thought it was cute. Barely.

Barely to what? XD

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupry

[spoiler MLP]Congratulations, you've found My Lie Policy: Only when i'm prompted, i might lie. (policy still in the refinement process.) [/spoiler] [spoiler I am both rational and instinctive. I value self-knowledge and understanding of the world; my ultimate goal is self-improvement and improvement of the world around me. At best, I am focused and methodical; at worst, I am obsessive and amoral.]I am Blue/Green
I am Blue/Green

[/spoiler]
Chaos, would that make you a Texbian?

i dont know what to say ..... or if it's even offensive

If she takes offense to it, I offer my most humble and abject apologies. It was not intended to give offense.

I thought it was cute. Barely.

   
Two... Ah ah ah! Three.. Ah ah ah! Four... Ah ah ah! Six... Ah ah ah!!
88534793 wrote:
Punctuation exists for a reason, and your neglect of the shift key is to the point where Social Services should be involved.
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