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Why do promos like this exist? My LGS advertised a fun free standard event where they'd be "giving away a ton of free promos". Only after the tournament had concluded did I realize that most of the promos were this nonsense.

Why do they make promos like this? Someone has to decide. Someone has to think that Nearheath Stalker is a card deserving of promo-ship. But why? This card isn't iconic. It isn't memorable. It isn't particularly fun, and good heavens it isn't good. I understand if the card isn't exactly for me. I don't play EDH but I atleast see reason for them to make Reliquary Tower a promo. At least a reasonable amount of people will want a card like Reliquary Tower. Not so with this.

I can't wait until they start unloading Gutter Skulks on us.

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Man, they made a promo for this? Finally, now I can pimp out my entire combo!

Sweet, thanks for telling me.

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Modo promo this month is Mind's Eye, I think. the person who decides this stuff isn't doing a great job. 
I'm fine with this.
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I think this promo was from way back when DKA first came out, so it's probably just meant to show off Undying. Maybe Undying Evil would have been better, but this is simpler...
Modo promo this month is Mind's Eye, I think. the person who decides this stuff isn't doing a great job. 


Mind's Eye is actually pretty popular in EDH, to the best of my knowledge. I mean, it's pretty poor in anything that doesn't have to do with multiplayer, but it fits the Reliquary Tower category in that there's at least some people who like it.

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Modo promo this month is Mind's Eye, I think. the person who decides this stuff isn't doing a great job. 


Mind's Eye is actually pretty popular in EDH, to the best of my knowledge. I mean, it's pretty poor in anything that doesn't have to do with multiplayer, but it fits the Reliquary Tower category in that there's at least some people who like it.


As far as MOCS promos go, minds eye is a pretty big step down from force. A casual only card seems like a strange choice for this type of promo...
I don't know what event this promo was made for, but if they wanted to show off a common undying card...Young Wolf?
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You don't think the promo art for that card is kinda cool? I'm diggin' it.
Modo promo this month is Mind's Eye, I think. the person who decides this stuff isn't doing a great job. 


Mind's Eye is actually pretty popular in EDH, to the best of my knowledge. I mean, it's pretty poor in anything that doesn't have to do with multiplayer, but it fits the Reliquary Tower category in that there's at least some people who like it.


As far as MOCS promos go, minds eye is a pretty big step down from force. A casual only card seems like a strange choice for this type of promo...


On top of that not many people play EDH on Modo. It just seems really odd. 
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On the one hand the art is really cool, but I don't imagine there's much demand for this.....
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They chose that as a promo because it's one of the most perverted cards to come out in recent years.

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surely one can't say complex conditional passive language is bad grammar ?
Gateway promos usually suck in all kinds of ways.
Man that thing needs to be in the next From the Vault, its sooooo broken!

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Man that thing needs to be in the next From the Vault, its sooooo broken!


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120.6. Some effects replace card draws.

 

why are you here when NGA exists and is just better

I think complaints from some players along with MtG sellers are forcing more bad promos to roll out. Rich players and shops don't like good promos printed as it drops the value of their expensive cards. Then when we get crap promos, it works out as now everybody is unhappy, including the new dumping area of the Pacific Ocean.
Come on fella`s, its a sexy vamp.

If they wanted a sexy vamp they should have done rakish heir
Gateway promos usually suck in all kinds of ways.




Looks like you could expect about 2 or 3 good ones a year.  Though they don't do these anymore.  I'm sure most the people here have no idea what they are.  The store I go to use to let you pick from these promos for all their events they had during non-fnm.  Not sure if they also supplamented FNM with these as well.
I can't wait until they start unloading Gutter Skulks on us.

A vanilla creature in Black! That used to be something unusual...

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I can't wait until they start unloading Gutter Skulks on us.

A vanilla creature in Black! That used to be something unusual...




Scathe Zombies has always existed.

However, it's only very recently that we've started to see 2/2 creatures for without a drawback. It used to be that only green and white could get those.
I can't wait until they start unloading Gutter Skulks on us.

A vanilla creature in Black! That used to be something unusual...




Scathe Zombies has always existed.

However, it's only very recently that we've started to see 2/2 creatures for without a drawback. It used to be that only green and white could get those.


red got one before black
192884403 wrote:
firstrike
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.
I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.
I know.
I'm not sure what you mean. There still isn't a 2/2 for that doesn't have some sort of drawback. Every red creature either has a higher or more restrictive cost, or has lower P/T, or has a drawback of some kind.
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All mono red 2/2 for 2.

I have played with most of those and never felt "oh man wish I could block with this guy."
I miss the old days.
"It has a drawback I don't care about" is still not the same as "it has no drawback".
Modo promo this month is Mind's Eye, I think. the person who decides this stuff isn't doing a great job. 


Mind's Eye is actually pretty popular in EDH, to the best of my knowledge. I mean, it's pretty poor in anything that doesn't have to do with multiplayer, but it fits the Reliquary Tower category in that there's at least some people who like it.


As far as MOCS promos go, minds eye is a pretty big step down from force. A casual only card seems like a strange choice for this type of promo...


On top of that not many people play EDH on Modo. It just seems really odd. 


Well, not anymore at least with the merger of the multi and single-player rooms.
Back in the day (man, it hasn't even been that long yet, has it?) there were at least a few dozen multiplayer commander games going at any given time.

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I'm not sure what you mean. There still isn't a 2/2 for that doesn't have some sort of drawback. Every red creature either has a higher or more restrictive cost, or has lower P/T, or has a drawback of some kind.


Frazzled Editor
192884403 wrote:
firstrike
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.
I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.
I know.
The first promos of a set are chosen before the set is printed. Sometimes they simply make a mistake about some cards they think will be interesting, as they don't have enough data yet.

PS: I like Mind's Eye very much. It may not be competitive, but it's an interesting draw engine especially in multiplayer games.
I'm not sure what you mean. There still isn't a 2/2 for that doesn't have some sort of drawback. Every red creature either has a higher or more restrictive cost, or has lower P/T, or has a drawback of some kind.


Frazzled Editor

Protection can sometimes be a drawback.

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I'm not sure what you mean. There still isn't a 2/2 for that doesn't have some sort of drawback. Every red creature either has a higher or more restrictive cost, or has lower P/T, or has a drawback of some kind.


Frazzled Editor

Protection can sometimes be a drawback.


That is patently false
192884403 wrote:
firstrike
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.
I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.
I know.
There are certainly cases where you'd want to target your own creatures. It's what makes hexproof more powerful than shroud.

More relevantly, though, that's an Un- card, so it doesn't really count.
I'm not sure what you mean. There still isn't a 2/2 for that doesn't have some sort of drawback. Every red creature either has a higher or more restrictive cost, or has lower P/T, or has a drawback of some kind.


Frazzled Editor

Protection can sometimes be a drawback.


That is patently false

You can't cast Madcap Skills targeting your own Frazzled Editor. But my point was the closest we've come to a no-frills 2/2 for is a 2/2 for whose frill isn't always (but sometimes still is) a drawback. In an Un- set.

"Proc" stands for "Programmed Random OCcurance". It does not even vaguely apply to anything Magic cards do. Don't use it.

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192884403 wrote:
firstrike
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
56965458 wrote:
97820278 wrote:
Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.
I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.
I know.
Goblin Raider is a 2/2 for that's all upside. Without his ability, you might accidentally block playing goblins. 

Bro, do you even Autocard?

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Sure sucks getting free promos
No such thing as a free lunch. Someone had to go up to the chopping block in order for us to get those "free" promos.
No such thing as a free lunch. Someone had to go up to the chopping block in order for us to get those "free" promos.


Meaning what? A better card doesn't make as a promo? Still free.
Or they cost the consumer somehow in the long run? They don't, unless your retailer charges you the extra 8 cents to cover the 1% discount that Wizards keeps in order to do so much for the game (Retail discount is 49% instead 50% these days), and I don't know any retailers that charge $4.07 a pack and many are less than $3.99.
Or that cards somehow affect players negatively?
Or, something completely irrelevant to the conversation, like paper usage? Wizards produces and is going to produce cards anyway. Taking out any specific card out of production isn't going to change much.
Regardless, OP states a free Standard tournament to get promos. Complaining about free prizes is ignorant, whiny, and only a first world problem.
Its not like the store is gonna say, "hey, Standard! Free promos! Everyone line up for FNM Swords and Arena Spellstutter Sprites!"
No such thing as a free lunch. Someone had to go up to the chopping block in order for us to get those "free" promos.


Meaning what? A better card doesn't make as a promo? Still free.
Or they cost the consumer somehow in the long run? They don't, unless your retailer charges you the extra 8 cents to cover the 1% discount that Wizards keeps in order to do so much for the game (Retail discount is 49% instead 50% these days), and I don't know any retailers that charge $4.07 a pack and many are less than $3.99.
Or that cards somehow affect players negatively?
Or, something completely irrelevant to the conversation, like paper usage? Wizards produces and is going to produce cards anyway. Taking out any specific card out of production isn't going to change much.
Regardless, OP states a free Standard tournament to get promos. Complaining about free prizes is ignorant, whiny, and only a first world problem.
Its not like the store is gonna say, "hey, Standard! Free promos! Everyone line up for FNM Swords and Arena Spellstutter Sprites!"



I was giving you a hard time. It looks like it wasn't needed though, you seem to have given yourself a hard time instead.

Being one of the retailers who do tournaments in an attempt to make players happy and give out free promos with roughly no monetary benefit for said tournaments, it annoys me when people complain about such things.
Being one of the retailers who do tournaments in an attempt to make players happy and give out free promos with roughly no monetary benefit for said tournaments, it annoys me when people complain about such things.



Complain about playing for a few hours in hopes of real promos, only to have my hopes dashed and time somewhat wasted? Seems reasonable.
 

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Time wasted playing Standard? Then don't play, I guess. Boo on the store for giving people a place to play.
Still sounds unreasonable to me. Like the guy at a basketball game who complains about the t-shirt he catches at halftime. Its free.
Seriously, what do you expect? Arena Path to Exiles and FNM Kitchen Finks? Its a FREE tournament, they're not gonna give away anything valuable.
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