Whats the go with language snobbery?

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Hi,

Recently I've been trying to trade a couple French Lion's Eye Diamond for some english ones, or whatever else I need they may have.
Three card shops turned me down, saying they won't take french cards.
......and yet they have Japanese and Korean cards?!

Why the snobbery towards French cards?  Are they harder to sell?  Worth less than English cards?
Whats the go?     
I have a French Gideon Jura. It's awesome.

Although I'm biased as I took 3 years of French, plus one year of French Culture.
English is understandable to American players, Asian languages look exotic enough to catch people's attention. Non-English languages that use the Roman alphabet not so much. Not only can most players not understand them, they don't have the exotic looks of Asian text. You will find the same thing with Italian and Spanish cards, I wager. German might not be so bad with it, as being fascinated with German history is far more common than French or Italian.

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German might not be so bad with it, as being fascinated with German history is far more common than French or Italian.

Why would a non-German person be fascinated by German history?
German might not be so bad with it, as being fascinated with German history is far more common than French or Italian.

Why would a non-German person be fascinated by German history?


A lot of Americans are fascinated by WWII era Germany. Just look at the Indiana Jones movies, the good ones had Nazis as bad guys.

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Yeah I hate to say it but I suspect most people who are fascinated by WWII Germany are fascinated for like, the wrong reasons.
Well, to start, almost every language except the Asian languages are worth less than the English cards.  The reasons are what is tated above.  French, Russian, Spanish, German, etc. are simply less desirable from a "pimping" standpoint.  The languages just don't pop out as being foreign as much as Korean, Japanese and the other Asian languages.  The exception to this rule is older cards that are white boarded in English.  If the foreign card is black boarded, they are worth more regardless of language.  Typically, "bad" languages are 20-50% less than English, while "good" languages are 20%+ more than English.

Second, foreign cards are significantly harder to move.  Even if the language is more desirable, it can be very difficult to find someone who is interested.  From the shop's perspective, while they might be trading up (which they aren't), they lose significant amounts of liquidity.  That cuts into profits as it becomes more difficult to quickly turnover their product.

Third, it's entirely possible that the stores just aren't interested in buying LEDs.  The card has nearly doubled in price very recently.  The stores could be afraid of buying it, then having the bubble burst and losing a ton of money.

I also find it strange that you're complaining about the stores not desiring the foreign LEDs when you're trying to dump them.  If you don't want French LEDs, why would any one else?
Yeah I hate to say it but I suspect most people who are fascinated by WWII Germany are fascinated for like, the wrong reasons.


That greatly depends upon what you consider "the wrong reasons". I know plenty of people that are fascinated by WWII and Nazi era Germany without being Neo-Nazis or racists. Back in the day, Germany made some incredible technological advances, and there were several, er, colorful, shall we say, personalities at work.

But, in general, people find conflict fascinating. Just look at us, we play at war with fantasy creatures and such.

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French, Russian, Spanish, German, etc. are simply less desirable from a "pimping" standpoint.



Pretty sure that both Russian and Korean are highly valued due to being hard to obtain. At least they were the last time I read a "pimp cards" thread.
Russian is news to me...
Well, it's mostly due to rarity and the fact that they have their own symbols.

I guess people like to pretend that their cards are yelling at them during online games.
Second, foreign cards are significantly harder to move... 
...it's entirely possible that the stores just aren't interested in buying LEDs.

I also find it strange that you're complaining about the stores not desiring the foreign LEDs when you're trying to dump them.  If you don't want French LEDs, why would any one else?



It's not that I don't want French LED's at all, they're fine.  I'd just rather have english ones an opponent can read, so I don't have to pull an english one out of the deck to show him/her what the card does. 
People get competitive and don't trust me, I'm over having to deal with peoples' ego's over such a petty thing.
 

And I don't speak francais.

I just kinda assumed that any LED's, being a reserved-list card and rare as ****, even at a low buy-price would be welcome..... guess I assumed wrong.
The thing was, when i asked, "Can I sell these/trade these Led's?"
Their answers were all based on the language on the card, nothing was said about any other possible reason.
Hell, they didn't even suggest a low-ball offer.....   
I just kinda assumed that any LED's, being a reserved-list card and rare as ****, even at a low buy-price would be welcome..... guess I assumed wrong. 
 



The thing is, most people are willing to spend the extra money on a "nice" copy of a card that already costs a lot, due to the collectability of the card and the general attitude of "Well, I'm already spending this much, so..." For example, a Slightly Played Karakas would likely fetch quite a bit less than a Mint/Near-Mint one. Same goes for the Italian ones.
It's not that I don't want French LED's at all, they're fine.  I'd just rather have english ones an opponent can read, so I don't have to pull an english one out of the deck to show him/her what the card does.



Of course, even the English ones don't have the vital "Activate this ability only any time you could cast an instant." printed on them.
Asian languages are exotic, as stated above.

I like russian cards because their alphabet is slightly different as well.

French, spanish, portugese are not interesting because its the same alphabet.

I would imagine greek cards would be ok looking too, and arabic if those exist (not sure) 
Hi,

Recently I've been trying to trade a couple French Lion's Eye Diamond for some english ones, or whatever else I need they may have.
Three card shops turned me down, saying they won't take french cards.
......and yet they have Japanese and Korean cards?!

Why the snobbery towards French cards?  Are they harder to sell?  Worth less than English cards?
Whats the go?     

The real question is: "why do you want the english instead of the french?"
I avoid foreign language cards at all costs.  I like being able to read my cards, and I like extending that same courtesy to my opponents.  It's a lot easier to clear up rules questions when everyone can read the damn thing.

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...just use the site that shall not be named, and sell them yourself.

You can set a price that you're comfortable with, and wait for someone to buy it.

or

You can set it as an auction, with or without a reserve price, and see how much it sells for.
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I avoid foreign language cards at all costs.  I like being able to read my cards, and I like extending that same courtesy to my opponents.  It's a lot easier to clear up rules questions when everyone can read the damn thing.



Well, when everyone knows the card (or when you know it's oracle text, verbatim) foreign cards are much cooler.

I love my Oiseaux de paradis! Way cooler than a regular birds of paradise.

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Asian languages are exotic, as stated above.

I like russian cards because their alphabet is slightly different as well.

French, spanish, portugese are not interesting because its the same alphabet.

I would imagine greek cards would be ok looking too, and arabic if those exist (not sure) 



Only one card has ever been printed in Arabic, and it was a promo almost 10 years ago. Glory was printed in Hebrew, also as a promo. I happen to own that card, and I'm damn proud of it too. I also have Aurelia, the Warleader in Chinese. I have a soft spot for cards that are out of the norm, even if it means I have to use one of the numerous phone apps out there to look up the text of the card in English to prove what it does to another player.

also what's the go with the phrase "what's the go"? that's not a thing people say.

 
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It's all about availability. French cards are in high print, same as German, Italian and some other languages. Chinese is not highly sought after either because it has a huge print run. Japanese, Korean, and Russian have the least and are the hardest to get. It has nothing to do with "asia's cool". It has to do with rarity and value. 
One of my casual decks has a Lorwyn Vergessenheitsring in it, just as a conversion piece.

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German might not be so bad with it, as being fascinated with German history is far more common than French or Italian.

Why would a non-German person be fascinated by German history?


also you should consider that there his a time BEFORE 1933. I know many people forget about it, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
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Actually Italian History has a much deeper and richer canon as so much of it was preserved through written language and record keeping. Things like the Renaissance, Roman Empire, Vatican, etc,etc. guarantee the Italians a high place in World History at least in terms of depth of materials and popularity in University research.
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I'd say it's foolish for any one nation of people to attempt to assert themselves over the others in the world. It's from inequality that conflict springs from, differences which make people feel alienated. As far as I can see, all nations have an equal tie to the roots of history—yet it all goes back to dark times, and dark things which shouldn't be hallow in an intellectually evolved society.

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I'd say it's foolish for any one nation of people to attempt to assert themselves over the others in the world. It's from inequality that conflict springs from, differences which make people feel alienated. As far as I can see, all nations have an equal tie to the roots of history—yet it all goes back to dark times, and dark things which shouldn't be hallow in an intellectually evolved society.



That's both irrelevant and rather pretentious.
I think it has more to do with vanity.  It's similar to wanting to foil out a deck.  They want people to ooh and ah over them, and somehow feel special.  There's one guy I used to play EDH with that would constantly get you to notice his cool foils, as if it made him more interesting.  Another guy had an all Japanese deck, and I refused to play him at one point.  Having to have every single card explained to me ad nauseam grinds the game to a halt and sucks the fun out of it.

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Even here, where people speak French, they still prefer english cards. Some people occasionnally buy French boosters, but that's more of an oddity.

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56945988 wrote:
Rancor dies to in-response removal.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back. Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
58331438 wrote:
57461258 wrote:
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
57817638 wrote:
I think I wasn't direct enough in my last post. I'll try to fix it now. Ahem... NO ONE CARES there you have it.
57471038 wrote:
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
76973988 wrote:
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?

Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability.  If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat.  Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap.  If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player.  Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield.  Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has?  No freaking way.  Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
57817638 wrote:
The creation of praetors was worth it just because now amoeboid changeling is a praetor.
57140668 wrote:
1. cast frankie peanuts2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power
3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo
4. donate them a platinum angel
5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus, then play enchanted evening. play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever)
6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
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82423538 wrote:
One part of the statement being true=/=the whole statement true.
Whatever. I'm still here about ten minutes away. Whenever you want to get destroyed in Magic, I'm available.
I would like to get destroyed in Magic, actually. Do you know anybody good enough?
57617478 wrote:
Please format your statements in a way that doesn't look like a baboon hit its face on your keyboard.
57140668 wrote:
why did Garruk Relentless lose a loyalty counter
Show
to get to the other side
89522235 wrote:
You're such an obvious troll that you have hexproof and : Regenerate.
56957928 wrote:
56776038 wrote:
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
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Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
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Yeah that (Content Removed) really annoys me. Moderated by MY_self right about naahowwww!
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Dilleux_Lepaire just won the thread.
57461258 wrote:
And, as usual, Dilleux wins the entire thread. Nice work, sir, nice work.
99113151 wrote:
They need to make 9 layers of zones where cards go when they "die". Much like Hell.
56778328 wrote:
Wow, holy doggy poop, kids, obvious statement is obvious.
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122053101 wrote:
i don't think your geting it WotC is trying to kill the comption to make it so that there shity app is the only one left.
I haven't tried the app. How is its use of English grammar? Cheers!
57471038 wrote:
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated. Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
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If WotC started putting $100 bills in packs, the players would complain that they folded them wrong.
No, they just spam them with ban requests. That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
56957928 wrote:
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH. -First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20. And voila, now things are balanced.
89522235 wrote:
Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
142055101 wrote:
But how to mark them without making the individual sleeve different! You could buy a skunk and slam it's butt on you deck (pardon the french) Then after the game just sniff at your opponent's pile of cards and you will know if any of your cards are there!!!
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L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
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The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates. Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block. No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
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88993869 wrote:
Torpor Orb is absolutely godawful against Vexing Devil.
whoever is playing vexing devil is probably losing anyways
56957928 wrote:
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
56957928 wrote:
"Do or do not, there is no try." - Albus Dumbledore, The Lord of the Rings.
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68978039 wrote:
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too. Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
Then we shall play in the shade.
89522235 wrote:
I'm sorry, this forum isn't for getting bad advice on mediocre decks, that's standard deck help. This forum is for starting ****storms.
97820278 wrote:
139359831 wrote:
Your advice would only lead me to make generic, boring, and unworthy content. It's of no use to me.
I just got this image of you as an architect, having finished a building suspended by only a small pole in its southwest corner, saying it's original. Then the building collapses.
56957928 wrote:
I for one love the flavor of legendary lands. "I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
56957928 wrote:
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so... "Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
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GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
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Tamiyo vs. Gideon
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
76783093 wrote:
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
191752181 wrote:
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
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192729031 wrote:
You open a booster pack, and staring back at you from the rare slot is a Lotleth Troll? At least I can stick him in my EDH deck and still have four for my standard constructed.
Because lol troll
56874518 wrote:
It helped that I more or less skipped most of GM_Champion's longer diatribes. I only have so many brain cells I'm willing to sacrifice each day.
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Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
57023768 wrote:
Now show me on the Garruk doll where Zac Hill ruined your enjoyment of Magic...
63711769 wrote:
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use. From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin. 183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
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77120821 wrote:
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
196239043 wrote:
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.

 

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JuliusPringle wrote:

All I want to do is sit down and play magic, but when I walked in yesterday, (since I didn't talk to anyone) nobody talked to me and I silently bought what I wanted and walked out.


If you don't talk to anyone, that increases the odds that no one will talk to you.

 

JuliusPringle wrote:

So how do I just... introduce myself? "Hi, my name is Adam, wanna play magic with me?" Do I go to the counter and talk to the cashier?


Yeah. Talk to the cashier. Tell him/her that you want a Black Lotus, and if they don't have one tell them that the store isn't on par with what you expected.

 

Reach into your back left pocket. Pull out a deck list that you copied directly from some ChannelFireball top 8 Standard discussion, and ask for all the cards, as is, on that list. Then, ask for some random, probably terrible cards from whatever set is Standard legal. Say it's tech for the upcoming changes in the metagame.

 

Pull out a deck, and tell some random dude you wanna test (you have to use the term "test" for this to work) for Standard. Make sure that deck contains Kitchen Finks and Alluring Siren. Maybe throw in Nyxathid for good measure.

 

Finally, before you leave, spill (make it look like an accident) one hundred singleton, random cards onto the floor. Pick them up, put them in a pile, and say "EEE-DEE-AYCH".

 

I know this sounds dumb at first, but it will work. With the method outlined above, you will draw the attention of players that play older formats by asking for cards that no one on Earth can reasonably afford. You will get the attention of the wanna-be pro, Stomp-n00bz players by pulling out a well known decklist and declare that you have "tech" to make it better. You will get the attention of all the kind, helpful players by seemingly not knowing the most common format by having non-Standard legal cards in a deck that you claim is Standard legal. Finally, you catch all the rest of the Magic players by saying "EEE-DEE-AYCH" (EDH (or Commander)).

And there you have it. You will be talking to more people than you would have wanted to talk to in no time.

 

Smoke_Stack wrote:

EDH is the best format anyway


See, it's starting already.

 

Break the Card
What is Break the Card?
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
Week 1 : Xenograft
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft. Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1 Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad.
Week 2 : Mindlock Orb
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269 Winner : Axterix with his Maralen of the Mornsong deck. Honorable mentions : Void_Elemental.
Week 3 : Bludgeon Brawl
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797 Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
Week 4 : Followed Footsteps
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
Week 5 : Delaying Shield
This week's card was Delaying Shield : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27790101/Break_the_Card_:_Delaying_Shield Winner : Tevish_Szat. Finalist : Vampire_Bat. Honorable Mention : Zix200.
Week 6 : Painter's Servant
This week's card was Painter's Servant : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27940861/Break_the_Card_:_Painters_Servant?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Paint it Black deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his Tiger, Tiger Painted Bright deck.
Week 7 : Venser, the Sojourner
This week's card was Venser, the Sojourner : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27977489/Break_the_Card_:_Venser,_the_Sojourner Winner : Izzett with her "Venser, Trickster Trader" deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his "Tactical Sojourner Action" deck.
Week 8 : Personal Sanctuary
This week's card was Personal Sanctuary : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28005461/Break_the_card_:_Personal_Sanctuary Winner : MrQuizzles. Honorable mention : Vampire_Bat and UbberSheep
Week 9 : Sundial of the Infinite
This week's card was Sundial of the Infinite : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28038277/Break_the_card_:_Sundial_of_the_Infinite Finalist : Izzett with her "Afterlife Trespassers" deck. Winner : Xeromus with his "Fortune 500" deck.
Week 10 : Jace's Archivist
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist. Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
Week 11 : Search the City
This week's card was Search the City : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29518555/Break_the_Card_:_Search_the_City Finalist : Mown with "A Thousand Footsteps". Winner : Desolation_masticore with "Burn the City".
Week 12 : Fiend Hunter
This week's card was Fiend Hunter : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29530975/Break_the_Card_:_Fiend_Hunter Winner : Yuyu63 with "Carnival Hunting". Honorable mention : Dknowle's "Champion the Fiend".
Week 13 : Clock of Omens
This week's card was Clock of Omens : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29541549/Break_the_Card_:_Clock_of_Omens?pg=1 Winner : Dknowle's "The Myrs Go Marching".
Week 14 : Light of Sanction
This week's card was Light of Sanction : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29607219/Break_the_Card_:_Light_of_Sanction?pg=1 Winner : Zauzich's "Divine Plague".
Week 15 : Assemble the Legion
This week's card was Assemble the Legion : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29662307/Break_the_Card_:_Assemble_the_Legion Winner : JBTM's "Some Assembly Required".
Week 16 : High Tide
This week's cards were High Tide and/or Bubbling Muck : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29760427/Break_the_Card_:_High_Tide Winner : Mown's "Puppet Strings".
Week 17 : Illusionist's Bracers
This week's card was Illusionist's Bracers : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29776943/Break_the_Card_:_Illusionistss_Bracers Winner : Enigma256's "Tezzeret's Bracers"
Week 18 : Savor the Moment
This week's card was Savor the Moment : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29787235/Break_the_Card_:_Savor_the_Moment Winner : POSValkir's "A Savory Filibuster!"
Week 19 : Grinning Ignus
This week's card was Grinning Ignus : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29795547/Break_the_Card_:_Grinning_Ignus Winner : dknowle's "Luren' and Laughin'".
Week 20 : Transcendence
This week's card was Transcendence : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29806481/Break_the_Card_:_Transcendence Winners : Mown's "Transcending Timing Restrictions" and Dknowle's "Blinded by Greed", tied for the win.
Week 21 : Mortus Strider
This week's card was Mortus Strider : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29818471/Break_the_Card_:_Mortus_Strider Winner : SimonGlume's "Mortus Head".
Week 22 : High Priest of Penance
This week's card was High Priest of Penance : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29917231/Break_the_Card_High_Priest_of_Penance Winners : JBTM's "Two Clerics and a Goblin walk into a (Bom)bar(dment)..." and POSValkir1's "Choke Their Rivers with Our Dead!".
Week 23 : False Cure
This week's card was False Cure :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29964239/Break_the_Card_:_False_Cure Winner : Dknowle's "When Hippos Fly".

Week 24 : Akroan Horse

This week's card was Akroan Horse : http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4024821.

Winner : Dknowle's "Indian Giver".

Week 25 : Leylines

This week saw multiple cards being in the contest : all of the Leylines! http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4067621

Winner : POSValkir1's "Laying the Battle Lines".

Even here, where people speak French, they still prefer english cards. Some people occasionnally buy French boosters, but that's more of an oddity.


When I was in Germany, I discovered that the German players hated German cards. Apparently the translations are very bad.

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Here's a shout out for Scholars' Books & Games in Bridgewater, MA, and for Paladin's Place in Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany where I was stationed for two years. Support your FLGS!

Attacking the darkness since 1987, turning creatures sideways since 1994.

Even here, where people speak French, they still prefer english cards. Some people occasionnally buy French boosters, but that's more of an oddity.


When I was in Germany, I discovered that the German players hated German cards. Apparently the translations are very bad.



I'm German and I certainly don't want non-English cards. It's part of what makes me non want to play Limited here (but to be fair, the distance to the nearest venue and the cost are also significant factors).

It's not just about problems with the specific translations, but also that Magic uses a very technical English-based language, and any I couldn't rely on any translation to maintain all the subtleties.
Even here, where people speak French, they still prefer english cards. Some people occasionnally buy French boosters, but that's more of an oddity.


When I was in Germany, I discovered that the German players hated German cards. Apparently the translations are very bad.



I'm German and I certainly don't want non-English cards. It's part of what makes me non want to play Limited here (but to be fair, the distance to the nearest venue and the cost are also significant factors).

It's not just about problems with the specific translations, but also that Magic uses a very technical English-based language, and any I couldn't rely on any translation to maintain all the subtleties.


Used to draft almost every Friday at Paladin's Place in Darmstadt. We had English cards. Don't know how far that is for you, though.

Scope my YouTube channel!

Here's a shout out for Scholars' Books & Games in Bridgewater, MA, and for Paladin's Place in Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany where I was stationed for two years. Support your FLGS!

Attacking the darkness since 1987, turning creatures sideways since 1994.

Even here, where people speak French, they still prefer english cards. Some people occasionnally buy French boosters, but that's more of an oddity.


When I was in Germany, I discovered that the German players hated German cards. Apparently the translations are very bad.



I'm German and I certainly don't want non-English cards. It's part of what makes me non want to play Limited here (but to be fair, the distance to the nearest venue and the cost are also significant factors).

It's not just about problems with the specific translations, but also that Magic uses a very technical English-based language, and any I couldn't rely on any translation to maintain all the subtleties.


Interesting, around +98% of my actual cards are in Italian yet I feel the translations are pretty much perfect. The transition from Italian to English magic in my mind is quite seamless.

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192884403 wrote:
surely one can't say complex conditional passive language is bad grammar ?
My local card shop would LOVE to be able to get French cards.  Every release, the manager tries, but it's nigh impossible, because almost all of them from the distributor (or whatever it's called) go to Canada.  He knows that I and several other players would buy them PDQ.

As you may or may not be able to tell from my name, I read French, and I love having French cards in my deck.  I'd say it's a local thing.
I avoid foreign language cards at all costs.  I like being able to read my cards, and I like extending that same courtesy to my opponents.  It's a lot easier to clear up rules questions when everyone can read the damn thing.



I agree.  The only time I could possible be interested in a foreign language card would be if it had some unique historical thing tied to it like the two promos someone else mentioned.  Even then, it would be more so to collect than to play.  I find it rather annoying when people do the foreign language cards. 

Yeah I hate to say it but I suspect most people who are fascinated by WWII Germany are fascinated for like, the wrong reasons.



I am going to assume you have no interest in history at all then?  No interst in Anne Frank's Diary?  Find the phrase "those that do not learn from the past are doomed to repeate it" to have no meaning?

The people you are thinking of probably have little actual thought so they actually are not as interested in hisotrical events and facts.  They are just more so interested in some ideas.
Used to draft almost every Friday at Paladin's Place in Darmstadt. We had English cards. Don't know how far that is for you, though.



Just under 200 km, apparently. The Event Locator puts the closest event at around 50 km.

I'm also terrible at the game, which is another factor.
Used to draft almost every Friday at Paladin's Place in Darmstadt. We had English cards. Don't know how far that is for you, though.



Just under 200 km, apparently. The Event Locator puts the closest event at around 50 km.

I'm also terrible at the game, which is another factor.



If its a good shop, then going there and drafting will get you so much better.  People will realise you are bad/new and offer to help.
I think it has more to do with vanity.  It's similar to wanting to foil out a deck.  They want people to ooh and ah over them...



This.

Shiny things are good. Other alphabets are cool. People gonna swag.
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I'd hate to accidentally walk partially into one.
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Real life fact: I'm terrified of Grizzly Bears, Polar Bears... and bears that could potentially blink into reality through a time rift.
Actually Italian History has a much deeper and richer canon as so much of it was preserved through written language and record keeping. Things like the Renaissance, Roman Empire, Vatican, etc,etc. guarantee the Italians a high place in World History at least in terms of depth of materials and popularity in University research.


So we're going to hilariously start comparing which cultures have the "best" history now. This is pretty constructive. 
Actually Italian History has a much deeper and richer canon as so much of it was preserved through written language and record keeping. Things like the Renaissance, Roman Empire, Vatican, etc,etc. guarantee the Italians a high place in World History at least in terms of depth of materials and popularity in University research.


So we're going to hilariously start comparing which cultures have the "best" history now. This is pretty constructive. 


The Chinese get my vote.

Scope my YouTube channel!

Here's a shout out for Scholars' Books & Games in Bridgewater, MA, and for Paladin's Place in Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany where I was stationed for two years. Support your FLGS!

Attacking the darkness since 1987, turning creatures sideways since 1994.

I also find it strange that you're complaining about the stores not desiring the foreign LEDs when you're trying to dump them.  If you don't want French LEDs, why would any one else?



This is my favorite line of thinking of all time, it leads to infinite possibilities.
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Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."
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Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.
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Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you? Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker. Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.