Is a Truly New Keyword Still Possible?

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Or have we exhausted all legitimate ideas?

Bloodrush is Channel.

Seriously.  It's a more restrictive channel; but it's the same exact ability.

Are there any truly new -- in no way recycled -- keyword ideas still out there?  Anyone wanna post one?
note:  i know that "keyword" and "ability word" are techinically different things, and that bloodrush is an ability word nota keyword, but the concepts are sufficiently similar for my point to be clear
Evolve, detain, populate.

Tax target permanent (At the beginning of that permanent's controller's next upkeep, that player may pay 1. If they do nott, he or she sacrifices that permanent.)

Probably lots of others.

But most mechanics since the beignning are just variants of kicker.
Everything is Kicker anyway.

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76783093 wrote:
56957928 wrote:
58331438 wrote:
56945988 wrote:
Rancor dies to in-response removal.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back. Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
58331438 wrote:
57461258 wrote:
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
57817638 wrote:
I think I wasn't direct enough in my last post. I'll try to fix it now. Ahem... NO ONE CARES there you have it.
57471038 wrote:
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
76973988 wrote:
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?

Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability.  If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat.  Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap.  If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player.  Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield.  Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has?  No freaking way.  Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
57817638 wrote:
The creation of praetors was worth it just because now amoeboid changeling is a praetor.
57140668 wrote:
1. cast frankie peanuts2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power
3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo
4. donate them a platinum angel
5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus, then play enchanted evening. play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever)
6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
82423538 wrote:
57471038 wrote:
82423538 wrote:
One part of the statement being true=/=the whole statement true.
Whatever. I'm still here about ten minutes away. Whenever you want to get destroyed in Magic, I'm available.
I would like to get destroyed in Magic, actually. Do you know anybody good enough?
57617478 wrote:
Please format your statements in a way that doesn't look like a baboon hit its face on your keyboard.
57140668 wrote:
why did Garruk Relentless lose a loyalty counter
Show
to get to the other side
89522235 wrote:
You're such an obvious troll that you have hexproof and : Regenerate.
56957928 wrote:
56776038 wrote:
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
79035425 wrote:
Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
97610188 wrote:
Yeah that (Content Removed) really annoys me. Moderated by MY_self right about naahowwww!
93446159 wrote:
Dilleux_Lepaire just won the thread.
57461258 wrote:
And, as usual, Dilleux wins the entire thread. Nice work, sir, nice work.
99113151 wrote:
They need to make 9 layers of zones where cards go when they "die". Much like Hell.
56778328 wrote:
Wow, holy doggy poop, kids, obvious statement is obvious.
56776038 wrote:
122053101 wrote:
i don't think your geting it WotC is trying to kill the comption to make it so that there shity app is the only one left.
I haven't tried the app. How is its use of English grammar? Cheers!
57471038 wrote:
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated. Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
56957928 wrote:
82423538 wrote:
If WotC started putting $100 bills in packs, the players would complain that they folded them wrong.
No, they just spam them with ban requests. That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
56957928 wrote:
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH. -First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20. And voila, now things are balanced.
89522235 wrote:
Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
142055101 wrote:
But how to mark them without making the individual sleeve different! You could buy a skunk and slam it's butt on you deck (pardon the french) Then after the game just sniff at your opponent's pile of cards and you will know if any of your cards are there!!!
141434757 wrote:
In Soviet Russia, Sorin opens You
71235715 wrote:
L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
57052258 wrote:
The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates. Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block. No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
58232598 wrote:
88993869 wrote:
Torpor Orb is absolutely godawful against Vexing Devil.
whoever is playing vexing devil is probably losing anyways
56957928 wrote:
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
56957928 wrote:
"Do or do not, there is no try." - Albus Dumbledore, The Lord of the Rings.
89522235 wrote:
68978039 wrote:
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too. Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
Then we shall play in the shade.
89522235 wrote:
I'm sorry, this forum isn't for getting bad advice on mediocre decks, that's standard deck help. This forum is for starting ****storms.
97820278 wrote:
139359831 wrote:
Your advice would only lead me to make generic, boring, and unworthy content. It's of no use to me.
I just got this image of you as an architect, having finished a building suspended by only a small pole in its southwest corner, saying it's original. Then the building collapses.
56957928 wrote:
I for one love the flavor of legendary lands. "I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
56957928 wrote:
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so... "Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
57150868 wrote:
GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
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57033358 wrote:
Tamiyo vs. Gideon
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
76783093 wrote:
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
191752181 wrote:
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
97820278 wrote:
192729031 wrote:
You open a booster pack, and staring back at you from the rare slot is a Lotleth Troll? At least I can stick him in my EDH deck and still have four for my standard constructed.
Because lol troll
56874518 wrote:
It helped that I more or less skipped most of GM_Champion's longer diatribes. I only have so many brain cells I'm willing to sacrifice each day.
192931349 wrote:
Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
57023768 wrote:
Now show me on the Garruk doll where Zac Hill ruined your enjoyment of Magic...
63711769 wrote:
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use. From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin. 183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
147137503 wrote:
77120821 wrote:
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
196239043 wrote:
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.

 

JustTerrorIt wrote:

 

JuliusPringle wrote:

All I want to do is sit down and play magic, but when I walked in yesterday, (since I didn't talk to anyone) nobody talked to me and I silently bought what I wanted and walked out.


If you don't talk to anyone, that increases the odds that no one will talk to you.

 

JuliusPringle wrote:

So how do I just... introduce myself? "Hi, my name is Adam, wanna play magic with me?" Do I go to the counter and talk to the cashier?


Yeah. Talk to the cashier. Tell him/her that you want a Black Lotus, and if they don't have one tell them that the store isn't on par with what you expected.

 

Reach into your back left pocket. Pull out a deck list that you copied directly from some ChannelFireball top 8 Standard discussion, and ask for all the cards, as is, on that list. Then, ask for some random, probably terrible cards from whatever set is Standard legal. Say it's tech for the upcoming changes in the metagame.

 

Pull out a deck, and tell some random dude you wanna test (you have to use the term "test" for this to work) for Standard. Make sure that deck contains Kitchen Finks and Alluring Siren. Maybe throw in Nyxathid for good measure.

 

Finally, before you leave, spill (make it look like an accident) one hundred singleton, random cards onto the floor. Pick them up, put them in a pile, and say "EEE-DEE-AYCH".

 

I know this sounds dumb at first, but it will work. With the method outlined above, you will draw the attention of players that play older formats by asking for cards that no one on Earth can reasonably afford. You will get the attention of the wanna-be pro, Stomp-n00bz players by pulling out a well known decklist and declare that you have "tech" to make it better. You will get the attention of all the kind, helpful players by seemingly not knowing the most common format by having non-Standard legal cards in a deck that you claim is Standard legal. Finally, you catch all the rest of the Magic players by saying "EEE-DEE-AYCH" (EDH (or Commander)).

And there you have it. You will be talking to more people than you would have wanted to talk to in no time.

 

Smoke_Stack wrote:

EDH is the best format anyway


See, it's starting already.

 

Break the Card
What is Break the Card?
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
Week 1 : Xenograft
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft. Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1 Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad.
Week 2 : Mindlock Orb
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269 Winner : Axterix with his Maralen of the Mornsong deck. Honorable mentions : Void_Elemental.
Week 3 : Bludgeon Brawl
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797 Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
Week 4 : Followed Footsteps
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
Week 5 : Delaying Shield
This week's card was Delaying Shield : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27790101/Break_the_Card_:_Delaying_Shield Winner : Tevish_Szat. Finalist : Vampire_Bat. Honorable Mention : Zix200.
Week 6 : Painter's Servant
This week's card was Painter's Servant : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27940861/Break_the_Card_:_Painters_Servant?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Paint it Black deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his Tiger, Tiger Painted Bright deck.
Week 7 : Venser, the Sojourner
This week's card was Venser, the Sojourner : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27977489/Break_the_Card_:_Venser,_the_Sojourner Winner : Izzett with her "Venser, Trickster Trader" deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his "Tactical Sojourner Action" deck.
Week 8 : Personal Sanctuary
This week's card was Personal Sanctuary : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28005461/Break_the_card_:_Personal_Sanctuary Winner : MrQuizzles. Honorable mention : Vampire_Bat and UbberSheep
Week 9 : Sundial of the Infinite
This week's card was Sundial of the Infinite : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28038277/Break_the_card_:_Sundial_of_the_Infinite Finalist : Izzett with her "Afterlife Trespassers" deck. Winner : Xeromus with his "Fortune 500" deck.
Week 10 : Jace's Archivist
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist. Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
Week 11 : Search the City
This week's card was Search the City : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29518555/Break_the_Card_:_Search_the_City Finalist : Mown with "A Thousand Footsteps". Winner : Desolation_masticore with "Burn the City".
Week 12 : Fiend Hunter
This week's card was Fiend Hunter : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29530975/Break_the_Card_:_Fiend_Hunter Winner : Yuyu63 with "Carnival Hunting". Honorable mention : Dknowle's "Champion the Fiend".
Week 13 : Clock of Omens
This week's card was Clock of Omens : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29541549/Break_the_Card_:_Clock_of_Omens?pg=1 Winner : Dknowle's "The Myrs Go Marching".
Week 14 : Light of Sanction
This week's card was Light of Sanction : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29607219/Break_the_Card_:_Light_of_Sanction?pg=1 Winner : Zauzich's "Divine Plague".
Week 15 : Assemble the Legion
This week's card was Assemble the Legion : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29662307/Break_the_Card_:_Assemble_the_Legion Winner : JBTM's "Some Assembly Required".
Week 16 : High Tide
This week's cards were High Tide and/or Bubbling Muck : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29760427/Break_the_Card_:_High_Tide Winner : Mown's "Puppet Strings".
Week 17 : Illusionist's Bracers
This week's card was Illusionist's Bracers : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29776943/Break_the_Card_:_Illusionistss_Bracers Winner : Enigma256's "Tezzeret's Bracers"
Week 18 : Savor the Moment
This week's card was Savor the Moment : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29787235/Break_the_Card_:_Savor_the_Moment Winner : POSValkir's "A Savory Filibuster!"
Week 19 : Grinning Ignus
This week's card was Grinning Ignus : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29795547/Break_the_Card_:_Grinning_Ignus Winner : dknowle's "Luren' and Laughin'".
Week 20 : Transcendence
This week's card was Transcendence : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29806481/Break_the_Card_:_Transcendence Winners : Mown's "Transcending Timing Restrictions" and Dknowle's "Blinded by Greed", tied for the win.
Week 21 : Mortus Strider
This week's card was Mortus Strider : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29818471/Break_the_Card_:_Mortus_Strider Winner : SimonGlume's "Mortus Head".
Week 22 : High Priest of Penance
This week's card was High Priest of Penance : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29917231/Break_the_Card_High_Priest_of_Penance Winners : JBTM's "Two Clerics and a Goblin walk into a (Bom)bar(dment)..." and POSValkir1's "Choke Their Rivers with Our Dead!".
Week 23 : False Cure
This week's card was False Cure :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29964239/Break_the_Card_:_False_Cure Winner : Dknowle's "When Hippos Fly".

Week 24 : Akroan Horse

This week's card was Akroan Horse : http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4024821.

Winner : Dknowle's "Indian Giver".

Week 25 : Leylines

This week saw multiple cards being in the contest : all of the Leylines! http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4067621

Winner : POSValkir1's "Laying the Battle Lines".

Everything is Kicker anyway.

But Kicker is really just split cards.

EDIT: Also, I think Maro is on record somewhere as saying that they've touched on pretty much every vein of design space that the game has. Fortunately, Magic's mine shaft runs hella deep.

"Proc" stands for "Programmed Random OCcurance". It does not even vaguely apply to anything Magic cards do. Don't use it.

Level 1 Judge as of 09/26/2013

Zammm = Batman

"Ability words are flavor text for Melvins." -- Fallingman

Evolve, detain, populate.

Tax target permanent (At the beginning of that permanent's controller's next upkeep, that player may pay 1. If they do nott, he or she sacrifices that permanent.)

Probably lots of others.

But most mechanics since the beignning are just variants of kicker.



Populate is just proliferate for tokens. Proliferate, on the other hand, was new.
Evolve, detain, populate.

Tax target permanent (At the beginning of that permanent's controller's next upkeep, that player may pay 1. If they do nott, he or she sacrifices that permanent.)

Probably lots of others.

But most mechanics since the beignning are just variants of kicker.



Populate is just proliferate for tokens. Proliferate, on the other hand, was new.

Gilder Bairn

"Proc" stands for "Programmed Random OCcurance". It does not even vaguely apply to anything Magic cards do. Don't use it.

Level 1 Judge as of 09/26/2013

Zammm = Batman

"Ability words are flavor text for Melvins." -- Fallingman

Evolve, detain, populate.

Tax target permanent (At the beginning of that permanent's controller's next upkeep, that player may pay 1. If they do nott, he or she sacrifices that permanent.)

Probably lots of others.

But most mechanics since the beignning are just variants of kicker.



Populate is just proliferate for tokens. Proliferate, on the other hand, was new.

Gilder Bairn


I think you meant Clockspinning.
A little bit of courage is the real magic.
Evolve, detain, populate.

Tax target permanent (At the beginning of that permanent's controller's next upkeep, that player may pay 1. If they do nott, he or she sacrifices that permanent.)

Probably lots of others.

But most mechanics since the beignning are just variants of kicker.



Populate is just proliferate for tokens. Proliferate, on the other hand, was new.

Gilder Bairn


I think you meant Clockspinning.

Then Doubling Season: point is, it's not new.

"Proc" stands for "Programmed Random OCcurance". It does not even vaguely apply to anything Magic cards do. Don't use it.

Level 1 Judge as of 09/26/2013

Zammm = Batman

"Ability words are flavor text for Melvins." -- Fallingman

Populate is not even close to proliferate.
Populate is not even close to proliferate.



But MaRo has stated that it was a direct influence. The more literal translation of the ability (which gave you a copy of every token you had) was simply too powerful, so they toned it down. 
Evolve, detain, populate.



Evolve was taken from a submission to the Great Designer Search 2.

Detain is more or less the same thing as "Tap target permanent. It doesn't untap during it's controller's next untap step."
They can still do some pretty new stuff with reveal effects, such as Forecast. And they could do some more with naming specific cards. Such as Diligent Farmhand does with Muscle Burst. We've yet to see keywords specific to planeswalkers, obviously because they're all Mythic rares, but a new card type that doesn't sit only at the high end of the rarity spectrum could bring new keywords with it. I think by default, though, keywords should be simple and boring, such as a background color, so that they don't distract or discourage you from finding out what you could fill the foreground with that'll look good on this new background color.

Food for thought:

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Creature - Human Wizard 
Blue planeswalkers you control have "[+1]: Look at the top card of target player's library, then you may put that card on the bottom of that player's library."
: Put the bottom card of target player's library on the top of that player's library.
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Evolve, detain, populate.



Evolve was taken from a submission to the Great Designer Search 2.

Detain is more or less the same thing as "Tap target permanent. It doesn't untap during it's controller's next untap step."




So? That means is was original at one point. IF you start taking everything apart then there has never been an original mechanic.
Yeah, I don't tap when I attack...that must be were Vigilance came from Tongue Out.

There's always room for new mechanics.  I would agree that something "Inspired" by another mechanic is still a new mechanic.

On the other hand, I don't believe existing effects becoming keywords are new keywords.  Which is were the rub comes down.

For instance: Evolve is new, even if it is similar to Mayael's Aria and Bramblewood Paragon
                     Vigilance wasn't a new mechanic because it already existed.
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Everything is Kicker anyway.

But Kicker is really just split cards.

EDIT: Also, I think Maro is on record somewhere as saying that they've touched on pretty much every vein of design space that the game has. Fortunately, Magic's mine shaft runs hella deep.


You should have seen the original version of multikicker done up as a split card. Ohh boy...
Vengeance X (This creature gets +X/+X if you've lost a game this match.)

Determined (You may reveal and start with this card in your opening hand.)

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Undermine (This creature may attack from your graveyard.)
Vengeance X (This creature gets +X/+X if you've lost a game this match.)

Determined (You may reveal and start with this card in your opening hand.)

caring about losing/winning/playing multiple games with the same person was done quitq a bit in the un-sets (and doesn't belong in real magic)

determined would be impossible to price well and would be no fun to actually play with
Undermine (This creature may attack from your graveyard.)

and how do the rules actually deal with that?
it can't die or be sacrificed again -- so only exile to remove?
and how do you tap in the graveyard?
and when it's no longer the top card in graveyard, only confusing and messy
not a legitimate mechanic
Eh, they had effects that carried into new games, which is similar, but you can draw similarities between most things.

Determined isn't that bad. It reduces variance, which is obviously huge. However, I think it could be pretty neat on some select cards, mostly things that either smooth out your mana, niche hatecards, or cards that are punishing in your opening hands, like high mana cost cards.

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Hmm... Gotta admit there is not a lot of new and original ones. Though Mown's examples have that feel to me.
Well except the second one feels inspired by cards like Chancellor of Spires. But I still like the idea as long as it isn't abused.

How about this one?
Treacherous: you may choose for ~ to enter the battlefield under target opponents control. If you do X happens.
You didn't ask for feasible. You only asked for "new". But if you want rules for it:

Undermine (You may attack with this creature while it's in your graveyard and without tapping it to attack. If one or more blocking creatures would deal combat damage to this card equal to or greater than its toughness, exile it instead.)
I'm unopposed to the idea,
I'd pull for more than one in the count
We should get all kinds of new keywords
I can think of none instantly though
NO WAR

 

Sivitri Scarzam rose to challenge the Craw Wurm but was slain by Durkwood Boars.

Liliana emergent

New keywords are one or more of the following:



  • Derivative

  • Gosh-Awful

  • Overly complicated 

Or have we exhausted all legitimate ideas?

Bloodrush is Channel.

Seriously.  It's a more restrictive channel; but it's the same exact ability.

Are there any truly new -- in no way recycled -- keyword ideas still out there?  Anyone wanna post one?

This post is just a retread of Ecclesiastes 1:9. Very unoriginal.
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In all fairness to keywords and the rest of the game, most things are elaborations on the original Alpha ideas. That's just how art works: the real brain-buster was coming up with the platform at all. But a good platform with allow for innovation to easily follow, just within the confines it defines. For every 100 new card ideas you point out, I'll show you how 99 of them were derived from Alpha creations.
Well, here's a keyword I designed at one point:

Simplicity - [Effect] if all permanents you control are creatures or lands. 

As far as I know, there are literally no cards with an effect like this. 
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Sometimes originality comes not from a completely new mechanic but a new take on that mechanic. Multikicker for example covered design space that Replicate could not. They can always create new evasion keywords and mechanics similar to Flanking but will probably be hesitant to do so. Exiling mechanics like Haunt, Imprint, and Cipher are also highly versatile. And sometimes it's nice to just revisit a past mechanic and build on it, turning it into a keyword, ability word, or otherwise. There's also always room for new templates like the Fuse Splits and Levelers from RotE.

I prefer to think that Magic has a lot of yet-untapped potential.

This is one I've made up for a set a while ago:

Camouflage (When this card ETB, you may have it gain protection from a color of mana that an opponent's land can produce)

I don't know how this one is worded, but:

Amphibious (Pay : this card gains X walk where X is a type of land used to pay for this abilities cost.)

Soemthings from Du'durag:

Cleave (If this creature assigns more than enough damage to kill a creature that is blocking it, you may have it deal the rest to another creature an opponent controls)

Swarming - As long as this creature and at least 2 other creatures with swarming attack, this card gains _______

 

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Flying, hexproof, fateless. (Jasper Caste Emissary can't trigger abilities)
"I've danced across minefields, laughed in the face of Aether's fury and made sweet love to time itself as it stood still"

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From nothing came teeth.
Beautiful, Eph. Beautiful.
That's quite amazing. But f***it, that's somewhat more annoying than Invisible Stalker. xD
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Creature - Faerie Moonfolk Rogue
Flying, hexproof, fateless. (Jasper Caste Emissary can't trigger abilities)
"I've danced across minefields, laughed in the face of Aether's fury and made sweet love to time itself as it stood still"

2/2


This is freaking awesome, but should be legendary. Its level of awesome and name suggests it.
Fuse is Entwine is Kicker.
Bloodrush is channel.
Scavenge is unearth is flashback.
Unleash is Graft.
Evolve is Extort.
Overload is Radiate.
Cipher is auras.
Populate is Proliferate.
Battalion is Odric is Battle cry.
Extort is Evolve.
Detain is Arrest.
Miracle is Affinity.
Soulbond is auras.
Fateful hour is hellbent.
Undying is Persist.
DFC is flip cards.
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Vigilance is Trample.
Fear is Flying.
Flying is creatures.
Creature is Sorcery.
Sorcery is D&D.
D&D is lord of the rings.
Lord of the rings is humans.
Human is Primate.
Primate is vertebrate.
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Hydrogen is electrons.
Electron is quark.
Quark is strings.
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DAMMIT MAN THAT WAS THE LAST UNEXPLORED DESIGN SPACE AND YOU JUST USED IT UP  D:

(What a great name for that ability, though... oh man. Oh man, it's so good.) 
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It was kinda explored with Torpor Orb. So I wouldn't say it's new design space.
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I've been thinking about something like:

Pure (For each Aura placed on this creature: Gain +1/+1 if the creature and aura share colors, otherwise lose -1/-1)

I know it's kind of wordy right now, the point is to give you incentive to boost your creatures but at the risk that your opponent would have a negitive (or even an off color positive) aura to debuff your creature.
It's much more an unique effect than anything else.



After the Night of Eight Million Screams, all surviving members of the Jasper caste were left fateless.
As for being badass and boastful, they've always been that way.
From nothing came teeth.
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Flying, hexproof, fateless. (Jasper Caste Emissary can't trigger abilities)
"I've danced across minefields, laughed in the face of Aether's fury and made sweet love to time itself as it stood still"

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how does this work with, say, batallion?

 

120.6. Some effects replace card draws.

 

why are you here when NGA exists and is just better

I'd say it doesn't trigger. It's the group of creatures triggering batallion, after all.
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