Idea for a NAYA grimoire deck?

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so challenging myself to build a grimoire of the dead deck with naya colours as i thought it would be quite fun,

heres what i got


4 x avacyn's pilgrim
4 x elvish visionary
4 x aven riftwatcher
4 x kitchen finks
3 x thragtusk


4 x searing spear
4 x volt charge
4 x farseek
2 x wrath of god


4 x grimoire of the dead

so the idea is to ramp into grimoire as early as possible with cards like avacyns pilgrim and farseek, then use removal to get creatures to graveyards. thought's??? 

What's the point of white in this deck? If you're including it for the sweepers, you need more - 2 more Wraths, and probably 4 Day of Judgment or Austere Command. It's not worth keeping for the Riftwatcher, I can tell you that. Red has access to sweepers though (ie. Blasphemous Act, Earthquake) so you can probably live without white quite easily.

In any case, I'd recommend running 8 1CMC mana dorks in order to have a pretty solid chance at hitting 5 mana on turn 3, which is Grimoire + activation mana. 4x Birds of Paradise + 4x Llanowar Elves would do the trick.

I probably wouldn't bother with 4 Grimoires - being legendary, you're just asking for multiples and thus redundancy. 3 would be a good number.

Fauna Shaman would be a fantastic addition (or Survival of the Fittest if you don't mind running vintage-only cards), and would increase the warrant of the addition of Squee, Goblin Nabob - which would be superb alongside both the Shaman and the Grimoire. I usually include one in any Fauna Shaman deck I run, but if I were also running the Grimoire I'd probably go up to 2, or maybe even 3.

If you go the Fauna Shaman route, Hoarding Dragon as a singleton could be good for tutoring.

If you want some more proliferate, Tezzeret's Gambit is one of the better choices. At its worst, its a colorless, slightly more expensive Sign in Blood (which is a great card), and the life loss isn't even an issue thanks to Kitchen Finks and Thragtusk. And if you get an extra grimoire counter off of it, score! 
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fauna shaman would be amazing in this type of deck,


4 x birds of paradise
4 x avacyn's pilgrim
4 x fauna shaman
2 x squee, goblin nabob
4 x kitchen finks
3 x thragtusk


4 x tezzeret's gambit
4 x farseek
4 x wrath of god
2 x pyroclasm


3 x grimoire of the dead

so its looking loads better, love the addition of fauna shaman with squee, goblin nabob  

I think you need some fatty in there. Why just reanimate Thragtusk? I mean, you can bring out anything, why not make it a table flipper?

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

that's a lot of birds to put into 1 deck

are you only building 1 deck?
NO WAR

 

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yes just building the one deck the next list is an updated version sorry,

valid point aswell i do need something good to reanimate godsire is nice for the colours.

so here's the new updated list;


4 x birds of paradise
4 x avacyn's pilgrim
4 x fauna shaman
2 x squee, goblin nabob
4 x kitchen finks
1 x thragtusk
1 x progenitus
1 x godsire 


4 x tezzeret's gambit
4 x farseek
4 x wrath of god
2 x pyroclasm


3 x grimoire of the dead

so this is the new list, got fatties in there to reanimate, plenty of sweeps, good ramp, what do people think? 

maybe not Progenitus. I mean, it would be cool to reanimate him but I'd rather play Godsire where I could (if need be) hard-cast him. At least give yourself the option instead of holding a dead card until you can pull the Grimoire. I mean, you could just Farseek and Wrath until you hit 8. That's not a great plan but it's an ok plan B. Perhaps consider some Unburial Rites since you could discard them and reanimate a turn earlier or something (give yourself a buffer while you grimoire or just Rites the Godsire and wreck shop on turn 5). Have you considered Craterhoof Behemoth as another choice for a fatty? Don't know how much they cost these days but they sure are popular in the Junk decks.

Perhaps Faithless Looting or some other way of seeding your graveyard as well? I like the idea of board wipe>>Grimoire but it would be better if you had just binned a Godsire or something.

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

yes just building the one deck the next list is an updated version sorry,

valid point aswell i do need something good to reanimate godsire is nice for the colours.

so here's the new updated list;


4 x birds of paradise
4 x avacyn's pilgrim
4 x fauna shaman
2 x squee, goblin nabob
4 x kitchen finks
1 x thragtusk
1 x progenitus
1 x godsire 


4 x tezzeret's gambit
4 x farseek
4 x wrath of god
2 x pyroclasm


3 x grimoire of the dead

so this is the new list, got fatties in there to reanimate, plenty of sweeps, good ramp, what do people think? 





About Progenitus - won't he be put back into your deck if you try to reanimate him?
oh right, duh

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

I agree Craterhoof would be fun to play. Again swarm decks, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite might be helpful. Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Iona, Shield of Emeria, or Terastodon might be good candidates for reanimation.

@smokestack - I once tried building a reanimator around the 3 big eldrazi and some of the incarnations (Purity, and friends). Laughing
Pathrazer and such? Seems brutal

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

Pathrazer and such? Seems brutal


 Actually... it was Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, Kozilek, butcher of truth, and Ulamog, The Infinite Gyre I was trying to use... Surprised

Afterwards I began to read cards a little more carefully...

@op, you may want to consider some of the slightly smaller eldrazi (Pathrazer Of Ulamog and It That Betrays, possibly Artisan Of Kozilek if you think you might cast something the normal way).
but... you can't reanimate Emrakul or any of the big Eldrazi

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

Right. It made my deck idea pointless, as the incarnations couldn't be reanimated too
sorry, I missed the middle line of the post above

EDH decks I play:

 

Prossh: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4101381

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4115936

 

Kaalia (the beats)

 

Zur (disgusting combo)

 

Damia (Bug Elf deck)

 

Numot (Stax)

 

Griselbrand (French)

 

Ghave (Uber combo)

 

Muzzio (Oops, Blightsteel)

You're in the stage I was (and still am) in!

Op: you may also want to consider the other praetors, though Urabrask, the Hidden won't be helpful I think unless facing an aggro deck with lots of haste, and is superflous if also pulling out Craterhoof Behemoth, or Vorinclex, Voice Of Hunger, though that is probably more useful in other types of decks or against mana hungry ones.
aww yes totally forgot that about progenitus, he cant be re-animated, how i missed that lol;


4 x birds of paradise
4 x avacyns pilgrim
4 x fauna shaman
2 x squee, goblin nabob
4 x kitchen finks
1 x thragtusk
1 x vorinclex, voice of hunger
1 x borborygmos enraged 


4 x faithless looting
4 x farseek
4 x wrath of god
2 x rolling temblor


3 x grimoire of the dead


 so bit more adjusting, added in boborygmos as he could help for a second grimoire ressurection if it was going to happen, faithless looting seems to fit the deck better for draw helps get cards to my graveyard.
the deck is gonna need more lands if we are going to utilize boborygmos ability, 24 should be enuf, im thinking more draw is needed to so the next altered list is;


4 x birds of paradise
4 x fauna shaman
3 x squee, goblin nabob
4 x kitchen finks
1 x thragtusk
1 x borborygmos enraged
1 x vorinclex, voice of hunger 


4 x tezzeret's gambit
4 x farseek
2 x day of judgment
4 x wrath of god
1 x staff of nin


3 x grimoire of the dead

but... you can't reanimate Emrakul or any of the big Eldrazi


You certainly can; it just requires more work than usual. Something along the lines of Vedalken Orrery, or an instant speed reanimator like Doomed Necromancer or Loyal Retainers. Because of the extra card required for the typical mini-combo that is reanimation they're often ignored for favorable fatties that stay in the graveyard.
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