UG Delver Took First at a PTQ

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Lands:


4   Breeding Pool
4   Hinterland Harbor
3   Cavern of Souls
5   Island
3   Forest

19   Lands



Sideboard:


1   Cavern of Souls
3   Talrand, Sky Summoner
1   Dispel
1   Dissipate
1   Essence Scatter
1   Negate
1   Mizzium Skin
1   Artful Dodge
3   Memory's Journey
2   Fog

15   Sideboard Cards

Creatures:


4   Delver of Secrets
4   Quirion Dryad
4   Snapcaster Mage
3   Augur of Bolas

15   Creatures

Other Spells:


2   Runechanter's Pike
4   Thought Scour
4   Think Twice
4   Unsummon
4   Simic Charm
2   Rapid Hybridization
3   Spell Rupture
3   Syncopate

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wait... I love this deck.

this is the first time I've seen augur of bolas: my new favorite card 
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really? that's why I was excited about this deck
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A) Welcome back, Glux.

B) Yes, Augur is amazing.


I'll be messing around with this.   

Caverns resolve Snaps for sick beatz and Talrand from SB.

Keep in mind that with a Pike deck (I love Pikes and Snaps) that you win a LOT of games by playing a Snapcaster EOT after a sweeper (Verdict) and you'd like to resolve that.  Equip Pike, Swing, have Rupture for Azorious Charm, gg. 
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Feels like the list is missing a color. Nice to finally see Dryad getting some respect. Needs more cantrips.

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I hate, hate, hate, Augur of Bolas.

I'd rather see this deck use Faithless Looting than Thought Scour... And we can use Pillar of Flame here. Pretty nifty. Red would be free and super effective.

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Would this deck like Hydroform?
thanks, bud.

you should help me learn standard as I dunno what happened to kedi who usually gets me up to speed.

is modern a good format?

is another pike good in the sideboard?

@niche wtf is to hate about augur? card is filthy. I haven't played this deck (obv), but that card just seems insane with ~23 spells. 
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Augur is a filthy card. Play with it some, you'll see. It's a bricking 1/3 that sends 3 cards to the bottom, or sometimes doesn't give you a choice to cantrip in a bad way, and sometimes you need a 1/3 really bad and have to ship your next land drop... which you hate... and just die.

I hate it. Never gives me what I want.

Modern is ok. 

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eh.

I bet if you played 100 more games with the card you'd grow to like it more.

Statistically, it seems great 
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I hate, hate, hate, Augur of Bolas.

I'd rather see this deck use Faithless Looting than Thought Scour... And we can use Pillar of Flame here. Pretty nifty. Red would be free and super effective.



you have to use Augur is a deck with mainly spells and it helps to have some kind of tutor. Then, he's a total beast. I play 4 in a Modern Grixis control deck and once I get 3-5 mana out he helps put the rest on the bottom of the library so I don't dead-draw. I use Liliana Vess to tutor for the creatures and walkers he buries too. Typically, I'm happy to put Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker on the bottom and tutor for him later when I can actually play him.

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EDH decks I play:

 

Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4025591

Statistically its serviceable as long as creatures have a lot of 1 toughness or power < 3... since it cantrips and provides value.

However I'd like to introduce you to my friends:
Flinthoof Boar
Champion of the Parish
Experiment One
hell almost any t1/t2 play is playable simply because it gets big enough to run over Augur or won't die to it.

Then it gets almost ridiculously outclassed on 3:
Loxodon Smiter
Boros Reckoner

If it was a consistent speedbump I'd like it more. But the mean is a lot less useful in my experience. Again, experiences and whatnot, anecdotes, yadda yadda.

EDIT: we're not talking modern, but if we were I'd tell you that you're using a bad creature for the format even if there's plenty of cards in the format to make it better. Sorry. =( 

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I use him to dig for kill spells to use on the Boros Reckoner's of the game. I could understand him being weak in standard perhaps but I agree with Glux: if you build a deck geared around him or built to shuffle your library a bunch he's great. I never really rely on him to save my bacon from a Flinthoof Boar, just to keep my hand full of counters and kill spells. The mana cost is kind of misleading. I would never drop Augur on turn 2, 3 or 4 unless I had a ton of land in hand. I have definitely seen the scenario you're describing (scry 3 lands/get screwed for rest of game) yet, I read the clump of lands as something I'm happy to avoid.

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Augur seems ideal on like, turn six. @ the point where you're glad to bin the lands. I don't think it's primarily meant to be a speedbump.

Is experiment one good?

Loxodon smiter is ****ing retarded.  
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Augur seems ideal on like, turn six. @ the point where you're glad to bin the lands. I don't think it's primarily meant to be a speedbump.

Is experiment one good?

Loxodon smiter is ****ing retarded.  



I really want to play Experment One but I kinda lack the deck for him. Id like to go human tribal but there aren't many humans to evolve him past a 3/3...

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Derevi: http://community.wizards.com/forum/commander-edh/threads/4025591

The guy wrote an article and says he would not, in any circumstances, play a third color.  He tried them all and found them unplayable.  Personally, I hate playing more than 4 clunker lands (ETBT) because of awkward draws that lose the game.  

Glux, I love Augur.  Some don't.  I've been in love with the card since it was spoiled and I've played it heavily to great success since.  I generally like it with 23+ spells and this list plays 24 which passes the test for me.

I'll be trying this deck out as I love most of the cards in it and I love playing with them.
I love Thought Scour.  I love Delver.  I love Snapz.  I love Augur.  I love Pike.

I love the Memory's Journey tech and have been using it myself in my Ug Augur builds.  

If tempo is possible, you can count on me trying to run it into the ground.

I like a lot of singletons in these lists and his board addresses that.  
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you should help me learn standard as I dunno what happened to kedi who usually gets me up to speed.

I know at one point he was hiding on MODO, effectively dodging the forums... but haven't seen him in a while.

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I've skyped with him.

We have the same door. 


you have a bead curtain for a door? 
Has anyone found the other decklists? Just curious to see the tournament meta.

I found Carmen Sandiego before you were born unless you're Zlehtnoba.

Here's another list, at http://www.azmagicplayers.com/articles/brainstorming-how-to-delve-secrets-all-the-way-to-dublin/

Even includes a non-detalied write-up. Seems like a deck that would get smashed in one of my 2 metas. 

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Simic Charm is the real reason this deck can work. Love how it protects the pike also. This is the type of deck to keep an eye out for, when the new set is released.
So I actually played this deck and I didn't like it.

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Its because Delver is not good enough without topdeck fix.

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I think it's more because there's no mana leak/rune snag, tbh. My Delvers seem strong enough, it's keeping dudes alive that's the issue.

Either way I thought it'd be a lil more aggressive than it is. The only way you get a good combo finish is with multiple Delvers. 
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Then you need Spell Rupture.

EDIT: ugh this deck runs 3 already? Make it 4? 

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Then you need Spell Rupture.

EDIT: ugh this deck runs 3 already? Make it 4? 


The problem is you need to have Delver + another threat up early, and you don't always get the hands to do that. You do have a lot of filtering, but you need early pressure with this deck.
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So bad.

Replace it with Cloudfin Rapor and replace Dryad with Shambleshark. We'll learn not all commons are created equal.

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I'd imagine a large part of the reason this guy won the PTQ was because his delvers flipped significantly more often than average.  Delver just feels so awful without Ponder around.
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I'd imagine a large part of the reason this guy won the PTQ was because his delvers flipped significantly more often than average.  Delver just feels so awful without Ponder around.


Could also be because of the quality of competition and the "surprise" factor. 
I thought I'd said this earlier, but it seemed to me from the kid's write-up that he got incredibly lucky with both his matchups and his draws. I would LOVE for Delver to have one last hurrah to stomp on the Reanimator decks running around, but not sure it'll happen.

There's always Dragon's Maze, I guess. Simic Champion a super tempo card? Maybe lets you put instants on top of your library? 

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I thought I'd said this earlier, but it seemed to me from the kid's write-up that he got incredibly lucky with both his matchups and his draws. I would LOVE for Delver to have one last hurrah to stomp on the Reanimator decks running around, but not sure it'll happen.

There's always Dragon's Maze, I guess. Simic Champion a super tempo card? Maybe lets you put instants on top of your library? 


Look at blue in RTR block so far. Do anything about that scream "tempo" to you? 
It needs to be bant colored for both of the relevant charms. Azorius and Simic. There's your tempo.

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Is Simic Charm and Quirion Dryad really worth going :G: for?

:B: as a second color for Dimir Charm?

Losing out on Simic Charm may really hurt the tempo aspect of the deck, but Dimir Charm could help smooth out Delver flips, can be used as removal, and occasionally could be used to protect Delver from stuff like Pillar or whatnot.

Esper seems like it would really be where you want to be at for Delver (Dimir and Azorius Charm), but sadly going more than 2 colors seems to make the deck fall apart.
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Have you read Quirion Dryad? 
Seems like it evolves kinda hard.
I thought I'd said this earlier, but it seemed to me from the kid's write-up that he got incredibly lucky with both his matchups and his draws. I would LOVE for Delver to have one last hurrah to stomp on the Reanimator decks running around, but not sure it'll happen.

There's always Dragon's Maze, I guess. Simic Champion a super tempo card? Maybe lets you put instants on top of your library? 


Look at blue in RTR block so far. Do anything about that scream "tempo" to you? 



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