We need a better term for Elven sleep...

I love what I'm seeing from the D&D Next playtest packets.  That said, I really feel that we could use a more descriptive term to replace "Trance" for the restful time Elves spend while the rest of races sleep.  As a creative community I know we can lend the designers a hand.  What are your suggestions???
"Keebler Coma"
"Keebler Coma"



Well, that was easy.
Keebler Coma for the win!

EDIT:
Thinking it over...and I really have no issue with "trance" (aside from mentally linking it to music like Enigma or PM Dawn)...if I were forced to give a name for elven sleep, I'd go with:

1) Torpor
2) Fey Torpor
3) Elven Repose
4) Somnolence
5) Umbral Dormancy
6) And...my personal favorite (aside from Keebler Coma)...siesta!
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I dunno, it's always been trace since I've started so I've gotten pretty used to it o_O

That aside, does anyone else love the little flavour that Drow sleep because they are afraid to trance? It's an older piece of fluff. 
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I love what I'm seeing from the D&D Next playtest packets.  That said, I really feel that we could use a more descriptive term to replace "Trance" for the restful time Elves spend while the rest of races sleep.  As a creative community I know we can lend the designers a hand.  What are your suggestions???



What's the objection to trance?
I didn't have a problem with trance until this thread. Now I am definitely adding feedback in the next survey to have "Keebler Coma" be the default language.

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I suppose you could use "Meditation", but I don't think that is any better than "Trance". Thri-kreen in 4e describe the same mechanic as "Torpor" IIRC. At the end of the day, Elves just need less sleep than humans, and can do it without losing awareness of their surroundings. The in-game "how" can be refluffed as needed.

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I still like the 2E term Reverie.
I still like the 2E term Reverie.



This.
While I have nothing against "reverie" (no more than I do against "trance"), reverie means to be pleasantly lost in one's own thoughts or daydreaming. Sounds more like the school kid dreamily looking out the window while class is going on. Just doesn't seem to equate to what elves do. Meh. Either way is fine with me. Chances are, though, that they'll stick with "trance" and we'll be able to call it whatever we want to. I'll probably refer to it as Elven Repose in my games just because it sounds cooler than trance.
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On a slightly more poetic note "Fey Dream".


On a slightly more Dwarvish note "TBCTTDWTJSANAN"





*That bloody creepy thing they do where they just stare at nothing all night.


*That bloody creepy thing they do where they just stare at nothing all night.



As long as they're not staring at someone in particular, I guess that's okay.
Otherwise, it crosses that creeper line and just weirds people out.
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I still like the 2E term Reverie.



This.


Which is more or less french for trance
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Nothing wrong with Trance.
I cast my vote in favor of reverie.

Using trance sounds like they're hypnotized.

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Reverie is my brothers favorite word. Im on board. Beautiful word.
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I cast my vote in favor of reverie.

Using trance sounds like they're hypnotized.



This was my thought.  Eyes wide open and a blank stare.

I guess a majority like trance however.  I just thought the term to common and not very descriptive.

I like the (2nd edition Complete Book of Elves) term reverie too.  Although "Fey Dream" is very cool!

+1 for "reverie" as the general term, but I would personally try to come up with a character-specific term or practice; an elf wizard might prefer "meditation," while a cleric or paladin might call it "communion."
Trance is so eight years ago.  My elves dubstep for four hours a night.
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Trance is so eight years ago.  My elves dubstep for four hours a night.

ROFL. My daughter loves dubstep. Not exactly my thing, but it certainly is far less annoying that some of her other choices

+1 also for using reverie. Very appropriate for a fey-linked race to enter "a state of dreamy meditation or fanciful musing"

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Nothing wrong with Trance.



I agree Tongue Out

I still like the 2E term Reverie.



Yeah its been drilled into my head thanks to Elaine Cunningham and Richard Baker.

Lol how did this thread get a mod warning? People getting testy over sleep terms?
Trance is so eight years ago.  My elves dubstep for four hours a night.

ROFL. My daughter loves dubstep. Not exactly my thing, but it certainly is far less annoying that some of her other choices

+1 also for using reverie. Very appropriate for a fey-linked race to enter "a state of dreamy meditation or fanciful musing"




Every now and then I give my sons neon bracelts, turn off the lights, bump dubstep and enjoy the show. Poor mans light show.
Trance is so eight years ago.  My elves dubstep for four hours a night.


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While I have nothing against "reverie" (no more than I do against "trance"), reverie means to be pleasantly lost in one's own thoughts or daydreaming. Sounds more like the school kid dreamily looking out the window while class is going on. Just doesn't seem to equate to what elves do. Meh. Either way is fine with me. Chances are, though, that they'll stick with "trance" and we'll be able to call it whatever we want to. I'll probably refer to it as Elven Repose in my games just because it sounds cooler than trance.


The same edition that called it reverie also clarified that, instead of dreams, elves re-live their memories vividly.  So "reverie" is an apt term.  The constant re-living of memories is also what increases elves' sense of self, which is why they get a bonus on enchantment effects, their sense of self is harder to overcome.

And also, I cast my vote for "reverie" 
I've never had any problem with the word "trance" but "reverie" is soooo much cooler. 

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But yeah, "Reverie". 
Transcendental meditation - and its also a ritual you can learn.
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Transcendental meditation



Great Stevie Wonder lyric off of Innervisions, sick.
Transcendental meditation



Great Stevie Wonder lyric off of Innervisions, sick.



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... definition ...

tran·scen·den·tal med·i·ta·tion  










Noun








A technique for detaching oneself from anxiety and promoting harmony and self-realization by meditation and repetition of a mantra. 



Other definitions include deep relaxations and similar verbage.

I do admit reverie is kind of interesting, makes me think of a waking dream or similar. 
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At full hit points and still wounded to incapacitation? you are playing 1e.
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"Wizards and Warriors need abilities with explicit effects for opposite reasons. With the wizard its because you need to create artificial limits on them, they have no natural ones and for the Warrior you need to grant permission to do awesome."

 

+1 vote for "Reverie."
I still like the 2E term Reverie.




Yes, I agree.

Given the design goals of 5E the aggregate of all past PHB classes should be present in the 5E PHB: Barbarian, Ranger, Rogue, Assassin, Monk, Fighter, Warlord, Paladin, Cleric/Priest, Psion, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard/Mage/Illusionist, Bard, and Druid. Add in one or two Gish/variants and call it perfect.

Reverie - absolutely.
I still like the 2E term Reverie.

Me too : )

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I think I'll use Reverie even if they use the term Trance as official descriptor in my home campaign.  It does sound cooler!