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suppose i have a transmogrifying licid, and i activate its ability and its ability resolves.then the game is restarted with a karn liberated.can i pay to end the effect of the licid's ability, within the new game?
How so? The Licid will be shuffled into the library just like most cards from the old game. The effect ended when that game ended, the effect doesn't even exist anymore within the new game.
Maybe your problem is with the "non-Aura permanent" part in Karn's ability. Read it fully: "non-Aura permanent cards exiled with Karn Liberated" is talking about permanent cards in Exile (not permanents on the 'field), that were exiled by Karn's first two abilities. If Karn exiled an aura card, that card is shuffled back into the library just like most other cards; non-aura permanent cards he exiled stay exiled then enter the field as the new game starts.
IF Karn exiles your Licid, the Licid's effect ends at this point and it becomes an artifact creature card (non-aura) in exile, so it will return to the battlefield as an artifact creature (non-aura) in the new game.
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Why what is so? The licid has an ability that lets you end the duration of the type-changing effect. If you respond to Disenchant by ending the effect that makes it an enchantment, then Disenchant doesn't have a legal target and gets countered. Why would the ability say "Pay to end this effect" if it intended the effect to last indefinitely?
Oh, if you're letting Disenchant resolve first, then the Licid/Aura will be in the graveyard. You can later spend 1 to end that continuous effect, I suppose, but it won't accomplish anything of note.
uh, lol.. okay, i guess i have to dig up some real cards, now ... huh. i can't find a simple way to make it into a creature while still letting it keep its other types.is there no simple way to make it unattached?well, the crux of the question was "the continuous effect doesn't end until i pay 1; i know that. and so if the object its applying to still exists, even if it's not attached to anything, the effect still continues to apply, right?". when i word it like this, it seems obvious that the answer is "yes".okay, maybe i'm done asking about licids (for now )
The effect will continue to apply in Layers 4 and 6, but chances are that the effect will also have been overwritten by whatever you used to turn it into a creature some other way.
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