Urabrask

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The templating of Urabrask the Hidden doesn't seem to work under the rules. His ability attempts to create a replacement effect that modifies how your opponents' creatures enter the battlefield, but they aren't creatures as they enter the battlefield, so his ability can't apply to them. Blind Obedience and similar cards have the same problem.

Suggested new wording: "Creatures enter the battlefield under your opponents' control tapped."
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The templating of Urabrask the Hidden doesn't seem to work under the rules. His ability attempts to create a replacement effect that modifies how your opponents' creatures enter the battlefield, but they aren't creatures as they enter the battlefield, so his ability can't apply to them. Blind Obedience and similar cards have the same problem.

Suggested new wording: "Creatures enter the battlefield under your opponents' control tapped."



Please clarify.  I feel that rule 614.12 seems to enable Urabrask the Hidden to work.  Yes "they aren't creatures as they enter the battlefield" but they will be.

_Magic: The Gathering_ Comprehensive Rules

These rules are effective as of February 1, 2013.

614.12. Some replacement effects modify how a permanent enters the battlefield. (See rules 614.1c-d.) Such effects may come from the permanent itself if they affect only that permanent (as opposed to a general subset of permanents that includes it). They may also come from other sources. To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield, taking into account replacement effects that have already modified how it enters the battlefield (see rule 616.1), continuous effects generated by the resolution of spells or abilities that changed the permanent's characteristics on the stack (see rule 400.7a), and continuous effects from the permanent's own static abilities, but ignoring continuous effects from any other source that would affect it.

Example: Voice of All says "As Voice of All enters the battlefield, choose a color" and "Voice of All has protection from the chosen color." An effect creates a token that's a copy of Voice of All. As that token is put onto the battlefield, its controller chooses a color for it.

Example: Yixlid Jailer says "Cards in graveyards lose all abilities." Scarwood Treefolk says "Scarwood Treefolk enters the battlefield tapped." A Scarwood Treefolk that's put onto the battlefield from a graveyard enters the battlefield tapped.

Example: Orb of Dreams is an artifact that says "Permanents enter the battlefield tapped." It won't affect itself, so Orb of Dreams enters the battlefield untapped.
They work fine thanks to rule 614.12.
This also affects Master Biomancer (and anything else that makes things ETB with counters) and Essence of the Wild.

If this actually doesn't work, it's the rules that need changing, not the cards.
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I think it works under the current rules and wording.

614.12. Some replacement effects modify how a permanent enters the battlefield. (See rules 614.1c–d.) Such effects may come from the permanent itself if they affect only that permanent (as opposed to a general subset of permanents that includes it). They may also come from other sources. To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield, taking into account replacement effects that have already modified how it enters the battlefield (see rule 616.1), continuous effects generated by the resolution of spells or abilities that changed the permanent’s characteristics on the stack (see rule 400.7a), and continuous effects from the permanent’s own static abilities, but ignoring continuous effects from any other source that would affect it.

Example : If you control Urabrask and a Grizzly Bear creature card is about to enter the batllefield under your opponent control, that card would be a creature under your opponent control, so the Urabrask replacement effect does apply.
Ah, I missed 614.12. Thank you for the clarification.
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I often have exactly the same thought as Fezzhead—usually after hitting a card like Angelic Chorus earlier in the day—and I have to check precedents to make sure the current wording is correct. I suspect that one reason the template evolved the way it did is the potential misreading that gives your opponents control of all creatures entering the battlefield.

Del Laugel

Editing manager, Magic TCG

Looking at rule 614.12, shouldn't it say 'To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics and controller of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield' so that Gather Specimens interacts intuitively with Urabrask.
That is covered under 616