Zhur-Taa Swine

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I love this card at common!

Golgari Longlegs with a HUGE upside!

I'll fill my five slot with as many of these as I can muster.

Zhur-Taa Swine

edit:I mistyped five slot, for four slot.

But the main reason being his power and toughness are already usefully large for his CMC but in a pinch or low on mana give your attacker +5+4 This is a KILLER common.

Don't overlook this card
bulletd Guidelines: 5.0: I will take this card no matter what. Creature 1 or playable 1 or hate 1.Archangel of Thune 4.5: Bomb and splashable. Creature 1-2, playable 1-2, removal 1. Jace, Memory Adept 4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors. Creatures 1-4, removal 1. Haunted Plate Mail 3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Doom Blade 3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature. Creatures 3-9, removal 1-3. wall of Frost 2.5: Solid pick in-color; creatures 5-12, removal 3-5. Dark Favor 2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Elvish Mystic 1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Act of Treason 1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land. Lay of the Land 0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in. Brave the Elements 0.0: I will shred this card for counters. Darksteel Forge
I love this card at common!

Golgari Longlegs with a HUGE upside!

I'll fill my four slot with as many of these as I can muster.

Zhur-Taa Swine

What do you mean by four slot? Isn't it 5(CMC) slot?
And I agree, it's probably the most reliable Bloodrush creature, for either function.  

It might be the best Bloodrush common, but the most reliable one is the four-drop trampler uncommon.
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While it clearly is an amazing common, and will likely end many a limited game, I'm a little wary to overfill the 5 slot in my draft decks.  For consistency I prefer to have maybe 3-4 cards in the 5 slot maximum.
While it clearly is an amazing common, and will likely end many a limited game, I'm a little wary to overfill the 5 slot in my draft decks.  For consistency I prefer to have maybe 3-4 cards in the 5 slot maximum.



My friend, thinka bout it like this, This card also exists in the three slot! You don't have to ever cast it as a five drop if you don't want to. You could consider it as a "3 drop combat trick" and then only hard cart it if you need a big guy.

The mana curve works different in Gruul than you're used to, but don't worry, we'll all get the hang of it!

bulletd Guidelines: 5.0: I will take this card no matter what. Creature 1 or playable 1 or hate 1.Archangel of Thune 4.5: Bomb and splashable. Creature 1-2, playable 1-2, removal 1. Jace, Memory Adept 4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors. Creatures 1-4, removal 1. Haunted Plate Mail 3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Doom Blade 3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature. Creatures 3-9, removal 1-3. wall of Frost 2.5: Solid pick in-color; creatures 5-12, removal 3-5. Dark Favor 2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Elvish Mystic 1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Act of Treason 1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land. Lay of the Land 0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in. Brave the Elements 0.0: I will shred this card for counters. Darksteel Forge
While it clearly is an amazing common, and will likely end many a limited game, I'm a little wary to overfill the 5 slot in my draft decks.  For consistency I prefer to have maybe 3-4 cards in the 5 slot maximum.



My friend, thinka bout it like this, This card also exists in the three slot! You don't have to ever cast it as a five drop if you don't want to. You could consider it as a "3 drop combat trick" and then only hard cart it if you need a big guy.

The mana curve works different in Gruul than you're used to, but don't worry, we'll all get the hang of it!




An interesting point.  Just like it's difficult to place X spells on your deck building mana curve (miracles did this as well) it will be difficult to figure out where your Bloodrush creatures fit into your mana curve.
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Could you please consolidate all of your threads into one discussion thread?
Thanks.



Why? The discussions are completely unrelated.

If we consolidate to one thread I will have to hear you complaining about aetherize when I want to talk about armored transport.
bulletd Guidelines: 5.0: I will take this card no matter what. Creature 1 or playable 1 or hate 1.Archangel of Thune 4.5: Bomb and splashable. Creature 1-2, playable 1-2, removal 1. Jace, Memory Adept 4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors. Creatures 1-4, removal 1. Haunted Plate Mail 3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Doom Blade 3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature. Creatures 3-9, removal 1-3. wall of Frost 2.5: Solid pick in-color; creatures 5-12, removal 3-5. Dark Favor 2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Elvish Mystic 1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Act of Treason 1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land. Lay of the Land 0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in. Brave the Elements 0.0: I will shred this card for counters. Darksteel Forge
Could you please consolidate all of your threads into one discussion thread?
Thanks.



Why? The discussions are completely unrelated.

If we consolidate to one thread I will have to hear you complaining about aetherize when I want to talk about armored transport.


Poor you.  That's such a hardship.  Yeah, you should just keep spamming the forums instead.

And zhur-taa swine isn't a sleeper powerhouse, it's an obvious powerhouse.  This is like if I made a thread and said ZOMG GUYZ AUGER SPREE IS GUD. 

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I hope all this helps you to see things in a greater light—and understand that Magic: the Gathering was really created by extraterrestials using Richard Garfield as a medium. The game itself reflects the socio-psycho realtivity between living beings, and the science that takes precedence over them—to define reality for them all (like telekinesis, weather, scientific reaction, phenomenon, ingenuity, how the brain works, etc.). I'd also bet there is an entity floating thousands of miles above us, looking down on the current state of game, shaking its fist like... "Wtf are you doing?! You're getting it all screwed up!". Awkward—to be evolved, and yet still subject to the ladder that is the concepts of the game. In this case, misconception, corruption, and deception. With the realities of each color becoming distorted (through oblivious designers), leading the game to reflect a false state of reality that warps the understanding that other people have about those things. For example, people thinking that white could be anything except pure good. This shouldn't be too far off though, I mean...Magic is designed based on reality after all, so that entity (those entities) should be subject to those things. Anyways, I guess when you're busy doing space stuff you can't always be around to ensure quality control. It's no wonder they choose Garfield, they're so much alike; that's exactly what happened to him and Magic.
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omg snortng so much febbdelicious /intocixated in rl
I actually prefer separate threads for separate card discussions. I don't care how obvious or non-obvious a topic is. If it's in a separate thread than I can more easily choose to read about it, or not to read about it, as I see fit. Putting an entire set's discussion into one thread would mean a nightmare of scrolling and paging and completely unrelated conversations interwoven in the same page. The thing is, bytes are cheap, and don't need to be conserved. (in fact, they're free, as far as we're all concerned).

Sadly I don't have anything to say about the 5/4 bloodrush guy that hasn't already been said.
I have a good question about the swine, and really about drafting/constructing grull in general: When I draft or cunstruct in limited, I have a really hard time getting an adequate number of decent creatures, so using one of my 17 or so creatures as a spell seems like a diminishing return when you could play it for board presence. I understand that blood rush should only be used to turn an unfavorable combat into a favorable one, or to deal that final few points to the opponents face, but I can see it really slowiing you down as the game progresses and you don't have the creatures. If I'm playing grill, should I run 20 creatures even if 3 or 4 of them are undesirable? Or am I over thinking it? I know this thread is about the swine, so should I use the swine early to disrupt my opponent board formation, on wait and use it as an end-game win condition? (As a creature)
I actually prefer separate threads for separate card discussions. I don't care how obvious or non-obvious a topic is. If it's in a separate thread than I can more easily choose to read about it, or not to read about it, as I see fit. Putting an entire set's discussion into one thread would mean a nightmare of scrolling and paging and completely unrelated conversations interwoven in the same page. The thing is, bytes are cheap, and don't need to be conserved. (in fact, they're free, as far as we're all concerned). Sadly I don't have anything to say about the 5/4 bloodrush guy that hasn't already been said.


Totally agree with this. If it was twenty new threads a day every day, I could see the argument for "spamming" the first page, but it makes no sense to have multiple, entirely unrelated conversations going on in the same thread.

Do you people also think that the DLCR threads should all be one single thread so if you want to read about a particular card you need to filter through all the conversation about other cards to get to the one you might want to read about?
Absolutley one of the better bloodrush critters: It's rush is cheaper than most (which tend to run about less than casting the creature), and the creature itself (which most of the time is going to be better than rushing it: what do you intend to save from a nasty combat that's better than a 5/4?  Maybe something, someday) is quite solid with Power=CMC.

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Could you please consolidate all of your threads into one discussion thread?
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I actually prefer separate threads for separate card discussions. I don't care how obvious or non-obvious a topic is. If it's in a separate thread than I can more easily choose to read about it, or not to read about it, as I see fit. Putting an entire set's discussion into one thread would mean a nightmare of scrolling and paging and completely unrelated conversations interwoven in the same page. The thing is, bytes are cheap, and don't need to be conserved. (in fact, they're free, as far as we're all concerned). Sadly I don't have anything to say about the 5/4 bloodrush guy that hasn't already been said.



This...Cato take note.

bulletd Guidelines: 5.0: I will take this card no matter what. Creature 1 or playable 1 or hate 1.Archangel of Thune 4.5: Bomb and splashable. Creature 1-2, playable 1-2, removal 1. Jace, Memory Adept 4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors. Creatures 1-4, removal 1. Haunted Plate Mail 3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Doom Blade 3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature. Creatures 3-9, removal 1-3. wall of Frost 2.5: Solid pick in-color; creatures 5-12, removal 3-5. Dark Favor 2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Elvish Mystic 1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Act of Treason 1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land. Lay of the Land 0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in. Brave the Elements 0.0: I will shred this card for counters. Darksteel Forge
Could you please consolidate all of your threads into one discussion thread?
Thanks.


Could you please leave the moderation to the VCLs?

If people want to have a discussion of ombibus thread vs individual threads, please start a thread in Boards Business about it. Hijacking someone else's thread is not the place for that discussion.



Thank you!

bulletd Guidelines: 5.0: I will take this card no matter what. Creature 1 or playable 1 or hate 1.Archangel of Thune 4.5: Bomb and splashable. Creature 1-2, playable 1-2, removal 1. Jace, Memory Adept 4.0: Excellent first pick first pack, will sway me into same colors. Creatures 1-4, removal 1. Haunted Plate Mail 3.5: Excellent first pack pick two, will confirm colors or possibly sway into second color. Doom Blade 3.0: Good in-color addition, or splashable removal/creature. Creatures 3-9, removal 1-3. wall of Frost 2.5: Solid pick in-color; creatures 5-12, removal 3-5. Dark Favor 2.0: Creatures 10-16; removal 6-7. Elvish Mystic 1.5: My 23rd or 22nd card, depending on removal. Act of Treason 1.0: 23rd card if I don't maindeck an additional land. Lay of the Land 0.5: This card will sometimes be sideboarded in. Brave the Elements 0.0: I will shred this card for counters. Darksteel Forge
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139359831 wrote:
I hope all this helps you to see things in a greater light—and understand that Magic: the Gathering was really created by extraterrestials using Richard Garfield as a medium. The game itself reflects the socio-psycho realtivity between living beings, and the science that takes precedence over them—to define reality for them all (like telekinesis, weather, scientific reaction, phenomenon, ingenuity, how the brain works, etc.). I'd also bet there is an entity floating thousands of miles above us, looking down on the current state of game, shaking its fist like... "Wtf are you doing?! You're getting it all screwed up!". Awkward—to be evolved, and yet still subject to the ladder that is the concepts of the game. In this case, misconception, corruption, and deception. With the realities of each color becoming distorted (through oblivious designers), leading the game to reflect a false state of reality that warps the understanding that other people have about those things. For example, people thinking that white could be anything except pure good. This shouldn't be too far off though, I mean...Magic is designed based on reality after all, so that entity (those entities) should be subject to those things. Anyways, I guess when you're busy doing space stuff you can't always be around to ensure quality control. It's no wonder they choose Garfield, they're so much alike; that's exactly what happened to him and Magic.
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